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Originally posted by Storyteller What track is this? Beginning is (I assume) mostly from the original. The delay on the vocals is a bit much initially (listening on headphones - might translate better to speakers). When the drums com in I'm a bit distracted, it feels like a different rythm. When the vocals come in with the rhodes type sounds it sounds really nice. I like the subtle piano and strings in the background, they should be louder, they're really far back that one would hardly notice - if at all. I'd love to hear that plucky guitar from the beginning under this beat. Is that doable? Great sounds and solid foundation, I'm currently missing the things that truly excite.

So this is a track originally from Above & Beyond called Blue Sky Action. 75% is from the Master original. Thing is, there is a TON of instrumentation, vocal and mixed SFX that was not used on the final cut of the original. What I am attempting to do is take those "lost" instruments and re formulate them into a "newer" piece.

I have attempted to put that guitar piece under the drum bed but it wasn't working, hence why it was turned into midi and then a piano hit

Agreed on everything you have said, this was a slightly different bounce that you heard and I have made "some" improvements overall since then but, this is going to be a labor of love, not going to pound this out.

Ah inspiration. For me its up and down. Unfortunately, this motive came from a not so positive place. If you listen to the lyrics, it is not the most inspirational as it talks quite frankly about a guy who is preparing to commit suicide. With that said, an individual at my work took their life recently, which made me think about this song enough to pull it out and give it a shot.

I'm not at home at the moment but if anyone wanted the stems, I could throw them up on the cloud. This is kind of a rare thing as anjunabeats do not do this very often.

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mm im back for now, ill comment on a future wip, but im not in a state to give feedback right now, still trying to get some speakers and room dialed in.

I went to check out a few monitors, the only monitors that struck out to me was the adam audio a7v but a bit above my budget, was hoping I would dig the hs8 but it seemed to missing a lot of information the adam audio provided in the mid/side mids. idk, still thinking about it.





back to mucking around with some ideas, this needs some sort of meaty stab or something, and the mix sucks (as always).

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Originally posted by szm mm im back for now, ill comment on a future wip, but im not in a state to give feedback right now, still trying to get some speakers and room dialed in. I went to check out a few monitors, the only monitors that struck out to me was the adam audio a7v but a bit above my budget, was hoping I would dig the hs8 but it seemed to missing a lot of information the adam audio provided in the mid/side mids. idk, still thinking about it. back to mucking around with some ideas, this needs some sort of meaty stab or something, and the mix sucks (as always).

You know the drill . Too bass heavy.

Cool progressions you have going on, I like the bass portamento with the unconventional pattern.

Just fill in the gaps in the drums with some percs, go for drums with just the bass here and there for deep vibes (filter bass down) and you've got some nice things going on

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If less is more think about how much more more would be. -Frasier

hehe one day ill fix my bass issues. will go for round 2 of studio speaker test on saturday, hope to walk out with something.

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Originally posted by szm mm im back for now, ill comment on a future wip, but im not in a state to give feedback right now, still trying to get some speakers and room dialed in. I went to check out a few monitors, the only monitors that struck out to me was the adam audio a7v but a bit above my budget, was hoping I would dig the hs8 but it seemed to missing a lot of information the adam audio provided in the mid/side mids. idk, still thinking about it. back to mucking around with some ideas, this needs some sort of meaty stab or something, and the mix sucks (as always).

Dig that porta bass line but it seems muffled and cloudy in the mix. I agree with Story on this. Depending on the vibe, you could potentially make this into one long flow.
Monitors...I am really really in debate over that. I believe they are a GREAT tool but the best tool is your ears. My Hs8's truly are only used now for reference as I haven't turned them on in a couple of months now. Sure, at first they were used on every track but I found a lot of things lacking as time went on. Now, my adams are my mains but truly....I could survive without them as they are on the verge of being like my Yamaha's now.
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Yet another remix.This time from a classic. Still trying to work out the composition for this to make it a Liquid D&B track but, it starting to shape up but still needs a lot of work. The base is there though...any suggestions?

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sounds pretty amazing to me, vocals sound great. maybe some more mid bass? kick drums maybe a little too tappy

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Originally posted by SystematicX1 ------------------- Yet another remix.This time from a classic. Still trying to work out the composition for this to make it a Liquid D&B track but, it starting to shape up but still needs a lot of work. The base is there though...any suggestions? SystematicX1 · Time Remix

Dunno, arrangement itself sounds fine to me. What do you feel it's missing? Every time I had the thought "Song might benefit from 'insert thing here", you did it shortly after. Example, 1:40, thought "maybe some background interest..."and then that arp came in.

If you want to extend it...I'd say lean into the piano breakdown at 3:00 for a chillout section, rebuild -> repeat main/chorus and add any additional flair, then wrap up.

As it stands now, mix seems to lack a little clarity/oomph...But I'm assuming the final pass should sort it out.

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Originally posted by theterran Dunno, arrangement itself sounds fine to me. What do you feel it's missing? Every time I had the thought "Song might benefit from 'insert thing here", you did it shortly after. Example, 1:40, thought "maybe some background interest..."and then that arp came in. If you want to extend it...I'd say lean into the piano breakdown at 3:00 for a chillout section, rebuild -> repeat main/chorus and add any additional flair, then wrap up. As it stands now, mix seems to lack a little clarity/oomph...But I'm assuming the final pass should sort it out.

Thanks for the feedback guys.
So, the mix is set at a current -3 db because I know more stuff is going to get added. That oomph or lack of is because of that.
Your right, the energy is kinda just blah...I think that is the reason I'm thinking it needs more but, sometimes less is more so I am attempting to work with that mind set.
Final mix will add more strength but the energy , imo on this cut should come from a lead or something more dynamic behind it,and right now I am coming in flat.
I am wondering as well if the VOX isnt off balance volume wise, and these stems are broken up so much that normalization is challenging.

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Originally posted by Zak McKracken @msz maybe start a thread about monitor updates 2024 to get this place moving again, there’s lots of new monitors that I think are good to discuss: Tannoy gold 5-8”, new JBLs, new focals, new genelecs, Eve (from adam), and much more. Monitors are after your ears the most important tool you have.

what are you planning on getting? I mean im not going to invest 4000Cad so I can bang out 8 bar loops.

but if I did I would buy the adam audio a77h 3 way.

only option for me is second hand adam a7x I think.

Im currently running jbl 305p and they are fun to listen to but they are so scooped in directivity. I know the first generation were better in that regard. who gives a shit about frequency response if the sound image is shit.

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Something outside my usual. Lotta jamming to Mobitex albums as of late, and I was just like..."Yeah, I would really love to make something like that..."

Nitpicking is welcome of course...Arrangement is definitely going to change and I'm still currently in the process of finding sounds and figuring out where I really want to go with it. Also aware there are quite a few issues that still need sorting out even with what's already there. (Initial stabs sound like they're clipping with 8db headroom -_-)

I'd mostly be interested whether or not I nailed the vibe or not @ 0:32 onward, and if the inclination to hear more is there...

The low-end is intended to be quite thick btw...but it hopefully shouldn't be overbearing or blown out...I actually did put quite a bit of work into honing that in on this initial attempt.

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Originally posted by theterran TheTA · Chillgressive Idea

Nice feel to it, really like your transition at :20 sec mark to the arp.
Sub is deep but the movement is where I would focus. I am taking a guess that if there was a little gap in between the sub notes where it acts more like a chug that a sustaining note, "might" add to that full on cyber chill feel. And yes, I am totally nitpicking. Good stuff!

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