Drik I'am loving them blue lights all over the place they look amazing. Have you got any more info on them?

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Originally posted by -_1_--Ben--_1_- and i live near a school for little kids, very entertaining view. going to mis them in summer :-)

i'm not sure how to interpret that haha!

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Originally posted by Drik Here's a kitlist for those insterested: Hardware: Pentium4 3.2ghz PC Novation Supernova Waldorf Micro Q Korg Kaosspad2 Access Virus C Line6 Pod XT EMU 1820m AMT8 midi interface TC Electronic D-TWO Yamaha MOTIF ES Native Instruments KORE Mackie Onyx 1220 Roland JP-8000 Clavia Nordlead3 Genelec 8040A TC Electronic Powercore TC Electronic Powercore Virus Fender Telecaster ADK Vienna edition mic Software: Steinberg Cubase SX3 Eastwest Symphonic Orchestra Platinum Eastwest Boesendorfer piano Spectrasonics Stylus RMX Spectrasonics Atmosphere Native Instruments KOMPLETE 3 Korg Legacy Collection

Nice kitlist why the sorry sound card? All that hardware and such poor quallity AD/DA converters

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Originally posted by skot_e i'm not sure how to interpret that haha!

Just use some healthy thoughts

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Originally posted by fr0st Nice kitlist why the sorry sound card? All that hardware and such poor quallity AD/DA converters

Hmm, are you sure you're thinking about the right one?
1820 has crap AD/DA, but 1820m uses the same ones as in the pro tools system?

EDIT: From the EMU website:

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Mastering grade 24-bit/192kHz converters - the same A/D converters used in Digidesign's flagship ProTools HD 192 I/O Interface delivering an amazing 120dB signal-to-noise ratio

Or would I hear a difference with RME Fireface 800?

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Originally posted by Drik Hmm, are you sure you're thinking about the right one? 1820 has crap AD/DA, but 1820m uses the same ones as in the pro tools system? EDIT: From the EMU website: Or would I hear a difference with RME Fireface 800?

Honestly i dont know i havent heard the Fireface in person nor the 1820m. But i would really be suprized if EMU put the same converters that are found in a 6k system in a 400 dollar box. But i could be wrong and have been on many occasions. I know i had a motu828mk2 and i heard apogee converters and lucid converts on the same syths(jupiter 8/6. xpander) and they sounded much clearer on the apogee and lucid systems. I was also using the same headphones in each case hd650's. Converters in my opinion can make a big difference, well stepping from the cheap sub 1k ones to the 1k+ ones. Maybe there is a local store that will let you rent the piece and try it for yourself.

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Originally posted by fr0st Honestly i dont know i havent heard the Fireface in person nor the 1820m. But i would really be suprized if EMU put the same converters that are found in a 6k system in a 400 dollar box. But i could be wrong and have been on many occasions. I know i had a motu828mk2 and i heard apogee converters and lucid converts on the same syths(jupiter 8/6. xpander) and they sounded much clearer on the apogee and lucid systems. I was also using the same headphones in each case hd650's. Converters in my opinion can make a big difference, well stepping from the cheap sub 1k ones to the 1k+ ones. Maybe there is a local store that will let you rent the piece and try it for yourself.

Hmm good idea, it would suck If I'd work with sub quality converters that affect the sound if there is better stuff.. I'll head down to musiklagret tomorrow and talk with them.. thanks mate

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Headstrong ft. Tiff Lacey - The Truth (E:mortal remix) - SOLA
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E:mortal ft. Tiff Lacey - Footprints - SOLA, E:mortal ft. Tiff Lacey - Coming Home - SOLA
E:mortal ft. Vicky Fee - Say What You Feel - SOLA, E:mortal - Days On End - BTR
Headstrong ft. Kirsty Hawkshaw - In in Your Eyes (E:mortal remix)- SOLA

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Originally posted by fr0st Honestly i dont know i havent heard the Fireface in person nor the 1820m. But i would really be suprized if EMU put the same converters that are found in a 6k system in a 400 dollar box. But i could be wrong and have been on many occasions.

Well, the reason is simple.
EMU is now a sub-company of Creative, as many of you probably now.
And, as I've heard, hence EMU is able to buy loads and loads of ADDA Converters for therefore special conditions.
That explains why they are so cheap.

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Originally posted by fr0st Converters in my opinion can make a big difference, well stepping from the cheap sub 1k ones to the 1k+ ones.

Depends.
Sure there may be a big difference.
I've tested a couple of soundcards and took a 200,000€ Fairlight Setup (http://www.matthewadams.de/studioatwork.jpg) as well as a LynxTWO as reference to sub 1k soundcards.
In most cases you hear a clear difference, in others it's rather small up to unexistable.

Then again, sub 1k Equipment is usually hooked to other sub 1k equipment (refering to monitors, headphones and such) so in the end the converter only plays one role of many.

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Originally posted by dEEkAy Then again, sub 1k Equipment is usually hooked to other sub 1k equipment (refering to monitors, headphones and such) so in the end the converter only plays one role of many.

Hes got genelc monitors and some nice synths. No reason he shouldnt have nice converters. But as you said the converter is a small step, but it is the series of small steps that add up to make a very polished sound.

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Ok, we're getting a little ot from pics of home studios, but here we go...

The actual AD/DA converter chip in the Emu's & MOTU's is the same as the high end PT interface, so they're not lying.

On the otherhand they're not telling you that their analog circuitry and clocking is to put it bluntly, crap. AD/DA converter chips are pretty cheap, but good clocking and prisine analog design is not.

Now, the digi 192 interface, whilst very good is pretty expensive for what it actually is.

There are people out there who will take a stock motu interface, and graft in some improved electronics and a much better clocking. The difference is like a summer's day to a winter' night. The motu clock as standard has a jitter around 120uS, post mod that's reduced to under 10uS, which is seriously high end territory.

i've switched from the audiophile 2496 to a an RME multiface and the difference is really huge. i didn't expect this.. (monitors are genelec 1030)