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Originally posted by Etherium Cyn Seems like you have careful speaker placement and isolation, why don't you take it one step further and get some Auralex, you can get it cheap on Ebay. Since I see you're toeing in the speakers, I know that you care about accuracy, and it isn't as accurate without treating the room. Just my suggestion, I realize that it isn't always easy to afford all of these things. Trying to help.

Etherium - yup... I was actually waiting for someone to say "Waidaminute! Where is acoustic treatment???" - well, this is my new setup, so the picture you see is actually "work in progress". I had installed some bass traps (not in pict) and still have some tooling to do to get the sound just right. My last room was completely "dead" because I overkilled with foam. I'm actually considering doing a complete acoustic treatment in this room, with raised floor and everyting - it's just a very time consuming procedure and will probably cost me an arm and a leg... Ideas are welcome though,

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Originally posted by Vlad Superman - How do you like the JP-8080? I want to get one, but I hear mixed reviews.

Hmm... I am most definitely in love with this synth. I was a bit turned off by only a 10 voice poly but after I started tweaking it and mucking around with it I just fell in love. I definitely has a personality you cannot mistake. Some of the sounds just sound so lush and fat you can't help but smile . Some sounds are "bleh" but then you have plenty of knobs to help you change that. The only gripe I have with the unit is that I get a some stuttering when I use some effects. My other gripe is that Roland is probably one of the only companies that does not provide firmware and OS updates for most of it's synths on web, not even mentioning no manuals in PDF - you got to pay! But this one is easy to figure out, I didn't need a manual. Plus tons of websites devoted to JP.

My favorite synths for the moment are Access Virus and JD800 though... I hear them everywhere in Armin's album - 76. Almost every track has some JD or AV in it.

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Originally posted by DjAviander frykshun and CynepMeH: DAAAMN Am I jealous or what?! I just have a Computer a sucky Keboard and a sucky program! How good can you guys be to afford all your stuff?!

DJAviander, you don't need all this gear to make a great track... It helps but the ideas and your ability to use what's on hand is what makes or breaks the song. Overcompensating with gear for tallent and creativity will not help you make a killer track. Sure, it would help to have bulldozers, cranes, cement mixers, and bunch of other crap - but people (or beings )who built pyramids did without it.

Some software today surpasses hardware. Good example - Propellerheads Reason, Native Instruments Kontakt, and Bomb Factory compressors/amps/etc. Besides, if you could learn to work with software such as Reason - the actual hardware would be 10x easier to work with.

But it sure is cool when you could just turn them all at once and just start playing.... WwooooOOOOOOooooowW

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Originally posted by CynepMeH DJAviander, you don't need all this gear to make a great track... It helps but the ideas and your ability to use what's on hand is what makes or breaks the song. Overcompensating with gear for tallent and creativity will not help you make a killer track. Sure, it would help to have bulldozers, cranes, cement mixers, and bunch of other crap - but people (or beings )who built pyramids did without it. Some software today surpasses hardware. Good example - Propellerheads Reason, Native Instruments Kontakt, and Bomb Factory compressors/amps/etc. Besides, if you could learn to work with software such as Reason - the actual hardware would be 10x easier to work with. But it sure is cool when you could just turn them all at once and just start playing.... WwooooOOOOOOooooowW

Yes, I know what you mean, but when my keyboard is so crappy that it doesn't work?
And the only Mixing softwares I got is Dance eJay 1, 2, 3, Techno and Ejay DJ Mixstation.

It would sure be alot easier with some turntables and some keyboards that WORK..

I have now downloaded Reason and Fruityloops, will try them tonight!

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Originally posted by DjAviander Yes, I know what you mean, but when my keyboard is so crappy that it doesn't work? And the only Mixing softwares I got is Dance eJay 1, 2, 3, Techno and Ejay DJ Mixstation. It would sure be alot easier with some turntables and some keyboards that WORK.. I have now downloaded Reason and Fruityloops, will try them tonight!

Necessity fuels creativity BTW, you could pick up a decent start synth for around $200 on ebay. Just check out Juno 60.. classic!

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Which synth has alittle more "weight/spice" to it:

Nord Lead 3 or Roland JP-8080 - In the long run ill probably end up with both of these synth modules anyway.

I also heard that the Supernova II is alittle thin with synths, how do you like it? I wanted to get the Supernova keyboard layout eventually, but I didnt hear many good things.

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Originally posted by Vlad Which synth has alittle more "weight/spice" to it: Nord Lead 3 or Roland JP-8080 - In the long run ill probably end up with both of these synth modules anyway. I also heard that the Supernova II is alittle thin with synths, how do you like it? I wanted to get the Supernova keyboard layout eventually, but I didnt hear many good things.

supernova is ideal for strings and pads...if u like the rank 1 traditional type airwave lead the jp8080 posseses that thickness.

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Originally posted by Sirocco supernova is ideal for strings and pads...if u like the rank 1 traditional type airwave lead the jp8080 posseses that thickness.

I disagree. I own a supernova, and it only has one good string patch, and if you make your own strings they are alright, but not amzing. Pads are horrible. Bass is also alittle weak.

The supernova is great at doing synth work for the main and background melodies. It has some raging synth leads, really heavy thick sounds. It's awesome for those. Also all these little acid type sounds, little synth plucks, and hard techno noises.

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Originally posted by DJ Chrono I disagree. I own a supernova, and it only has one good string patch, and if you make your own strings they are alright, but not amzing. Pads are horrible. Bass is also alittle weak. The supernova is great at doing synth work for the main and background melodies. It has some raging synth leads, really heavy thick sounds. It's awesome for those. Also all these little acid type sounds, little synth plucks, and hard techno noises.

guess i heard wrong...bad opinions at synth site at sonicstate.com i guess hehe

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Originally posted by DJ Chrono I disagree. I own a supernova, and it only has one good string patch, and if you make your own strings they are alright, but not amzing. Pads are horrible. Bass is also alittle weak. The supernova is great at doing synth work for the main and background melodies. It has some raging synth leads, really heavy thick sounds. It's awesome for those. Also all these little acid type sounds, little synth plucks, and hard techno noises.

YOU ARE KIDDING, RIGHT????

YOUR SUPERNOVA REVIEW COULDN'T BE FARTHER FROM TRUTH.

Dude, no offence, you must have some weird supernova. Tried re-loading your sound set? Besides, if you're only using pre-sets you are just using 1% of your synth. My lord, the fuking pads are just awe-inspiring. Jeeeezzzzusssssss! Ok, to settle it once and for all, I am on a mission to give you some phat demos of Supernova. Here's some of the people who used it as their primary:

NU NRG (used live - the main kbd)
Solar Stone
Armin
PvD
Tiesto

Man, you probably didn't give it enough time or try. Then again, each has his own opinion. Supernova has the DEEEPEST bass out there... nothing rambles my walls more than SN. Try Drum'n'Bass patch.

Some killer pads:
Inverse Square
Plated Analogue - very 80's bright pad
Heavenly Slide - fukin wikkid, yo!
Pad Sweep - as close as you can get to Jupe
Orbit Pad
Pad 4 Landing

I can go on and on and on... man, give it another listen. It just cannot be beat. Leads are screamin. Man, I hate to say it you're just so far off base.

Bottom line. If I had to choose between JP or SN, I would take SN any day.

JP has it's pluses but I would say that JP has more of a "backing" potential rather than primary.

Spacewise, JP8080 is rack-mount and takes up 6(!!!)U. Nord (rack) is same size as AV rack. BTW, Nord 3 (hate me all you want) just sounds fukin awful. I did not find a single sound I liked in it. I just couldn't bring myself to liking it. No FX, shitty patches (about 96% waste) and crappy kbd action. I personally could not love it even if it was free.

Besides, for Trance I would not say it has as much use as for Rock/Fusion/Acid Jazz/Etc. Not Trance... definitely not trance

Use your ears, make your own decisions. I will try to post some demos soon. As soon as I get my Cubase to work again.

L8r

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Originally posted by CynepMeH YOUR SUPERNOVA REVIEW COULDN'T BE FARTHER FROM TRUTH. Dude, no offence, you must have some weird supernova. Tried re-loading your sound set? Besides, if you're only using pre-sets you are just using 1% of your synth. My lord, the fuking pads are just awe-inspiring. Jeeeezzzzusssssss! Ok, to settle it once and for all, I am on a mission to give you some phat demos of Supernova. Here's some of the people who used it as their primary: NU NRG (used live - the main kbd) Solar Stone Armin PvD Tiesto Man, you probably didn't give it enough time or try. Then again, each has his own opinion. Supernova has the DEEEPEST bass out there... nothing rambles my walls more than SN. Try Drum'n'Bass patch. Some killer pads: Inverse Square Plated Analogue - very 80's bright pad Heavenly Slide - fukin wikkid, yo! Pad Sweep - as close as you can get to Jupe Orbit Pad Pad 4 Landing I can go on and on and on... man, give it another listen. It just cannot be beat. Leads are screamin. Man, I hate to say it you're just so far off base. Bottom line. If I had to choose between JP or SN, I would take SN any day. JP has it's pluses but I would say that JP has more of a "backing" potential rather than primary. Spacewise, JP8080 is rack-mount and takes up 6(!!!)U. Nord (rack) is same size as AV rack. BTW, Nord 3 (hate me all you want) just sounds fukin awful. I did not find a single sound I liked in it. I just couldn't bring myself to liking it. No FX, shitty patches (about 96% waste) and crappy kbd action. I personally could not love it even if it was free. Besides, for Trance I would not say it has as much use as for Rock/Fusion/Acid Jazz/Etc. Not Trance... definitely not trance Use your ears, make your own decisions. I will try to post some demos soon. As soon as I get my Cubase to work again. L8r

I think I gave it enough time, I purchased it and used it exclusively for a few tracks, and use it here and there now.

The pads to me sound alittle cheap. Dont know how to explain it, and no I don't just use preset sounds.

The bass is alright, but nothing special for me.

But, like I said, I do think it's absolutly great for other synth sounds like leads. Can't beat it.

I have used the JP8080 before and I'll say right now that the Supernova destroys it (in my opinion).

I just cleaned up a bit and thought I'd post a few pics. The rest of the place is all wires and amps and speakers and just a big mess liek this awfully structured sentence that seems to go on forever and ever. Here's the clean section.

http://members.cox.net/robr/studio.html

Enjoy!