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zoka
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Location: Portland, Maine

my mind interprets this phenomenon in terms of the electrical components combined to give that overall sound color. it's not so much as which frequencies are enhanced because enhancing something means amplifying it. usually tubes and FETs are components in the audio circuit that induce warmth. Filters are another great example. Warmth to me is anything related to yellow/orange colors and their shades and tints. warmth is also created by gentle harmonic distortion. to some people this will be complete bullshit, to others it will make complete sense

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DJ RANN
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I know what you're saying, and I've engineered with/for enough non-technical people (many musicians for instance) who use colors to describe what they hear or want, but unfortunately, it's completely useless outside of a very personal understanding between two people.

The reason being is that it's so unbelievably subjective and esoteric that trying to decipher these things accurately is an exercise in futility.

I remember I assistant engineer on one session with a well known 1st engineer and a household name musician for a film score.

At one point, we were listing back to the overdubs, and the musician said "I feel like it needs more yellow".

Me and the engineer look at each other and we've both got the "here we go" faces on. So as not to challenge his statement, we start trying to warm up the timbre via eq and very light tube compressing.

He starts to complain it's not right, "it's getting more blue" so we just straight out ask what the fuck he means.

He points to the EQ knobs. On the desk we're using, the high EQ knob was yellow and the upper mid knob was Blue.

We all laughed about it but during the conversation, it became apparent that (EQ knob colors aside) his interpretation of what yellow and blue would have been, was quite different (as a musician) to what we as engineers leaned towards.

Case in point; it depends how you're brain is wired. Yellow can mean bright to some people (why the color high EQ knobs yellow) and warm to others (like you).

For those reasons, I stay away from using colors to describe sounds. And then there's the much bigger issue of what we each call each color (is my blue the same as your blue or do you think that color is red? Let's not go there).

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zoka
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I see your point RANN. That guy most likely had no clue what he was talking about.

Clay, to give you a better idea, my mind interprets Yamaha sound as light green, most Roland keyboards as orange, and Korg as brown/yellow.

Yamaha AN1x = light green/grey
Roland XP30 = orange
Waldorf Pulse 1 = yellow
Virus B = orange/yellow
Virus A = green/grey

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Vero
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Registered: Oct 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
What's going on people? bumping a thread from 2004?


+1
How surprised do you think I was to see my name on the recent threads? Lol!

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