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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney raphie aint rigging a USO show in falluja. and yes, wire is wire is wire. Line, mic and what ever the hell else you want. Electricity goes places. IF you can do that, job done. You can go on about impedance and balanced and that is besides the point that the wire is wire is wire. There is a standard, and once you reach it, you subribe to those magazines. UNLESS , you are as you said , using them like a philipeeno fun boy who got caught with his hand in the cookie jar. Even interference is i mean are you people doing lines off coils and making a magnetic field. The only person that i would exempt would ve the lord because of his personality. And system J because of his iron heart .

I wish your composition skills stretched to writing. Next time, could you please film an interpretive dance for me to ponder as it will be most likely easier to understand.

I think you're saying unless you're hotplugging like Gary Glitter at a Cambodian kindergarten, then you don't need to worry about your cables?

I certainly don't subscribe to the silver core cable or audiophile RCA bullshit, but not all cables are equal, and when the best cost the same price as the shit ones you buy from that black shirted numbnut (colloquially known as a guitar center employee) you'd be a fool not to.

I recently had a cable engineer over to fix my modem (of course, answered the door in a bathrobe, that happened to swing open at the opportune moment to see if he was so inclined) and while he was laying some cable(sic) I borrowed his cable tester computer.

Shit was crazy. It can detect breaks in unterminated cable, you can do an ingress test which can tell about shorts or even partial transference from poor quality insulator material and I gave it a go on a few of may cables. I have tow lengths of RG6 running about 60ft, one no nam brand and the other was a high spec one and the difference in terms of stats was day and night. Basically, with any cable that is meant to be matched impendance (think AES, MADI, SPDIF etc) you probably get less than two years of good performance from a cheap cable. The insulators degrade and break down meaning the impedance is compromised. The difference in resistance between my Van Damme Starquad Balanced with Gold Neutriks vs my Mogami with Switchraft TRS was significant.

While Raphie isn't entertaining the troops anytime soon (when apart from those lonely Sailors) K&H monitors, with a pristine soundcard and pretty full on room treatment does qualify for giving a shit about the copper content in your cables.

The price of copper has more than doubled in the last 10 years so the amount and quality has really suffered at the low end of things. Also, metals don't conduct the same way depending on how they are worked. In copper, conductivity is actually done by the crystalline structure of it's molecules. In high end audio applications, they dye (pull the copper through a mold) in only one direction and over several cycles, this makes the crystals all align and has been proven increase conductivity in crucial applications.

Now if you were saying for speaker levels applications, or certain digital data formats then fine, but analogue audio, with fucking powercables all over the place and a dirty mix of consumer, prosumer and pro equipment? Just pony up, drop the Hosa's and do your $5k monitoring setup some justice.

Making slap bass porn scores on your hifi speakers? not so much.

this is about a bedroom. and wiring that bedroom for production. I don't wear a fucking g suite to stop my blood from going to my head incase an elevator goes too fast.

I have many videos\. The hardest problem is finding a good background video to drop me in. Plus this is all new to me =, i'm colour blind pretty much and had cataract surgery leave me well, i can't focus. I will say just having all this stuff has made my social life sexier.

to be honest, this is is all short term decision stuff. I'm more about the big picture. big decisions. Cue big talk

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney this is about a bedroom. and wiring that bedroom for production. I don't wear a fucking g suite to stop my blood from going to my head incase an elevator goes too fast.

No, but you also don't save up a hundred grand to buy that Ferrari and then put diesel in it, do you?

Raphie arguably has one of the best setups on TA. If anyone has the kit to warrant being concerned with cables, it's him.

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney I have many videos\. The hardest problem is finding a good background video to drop me in. Plus this is all new to me =, i'm colour blind pretty much and had cataract surgery leave me well, i can't focus. I will say just having all this stuff has made my social life sexier.

What the fuck is going on with the health issues recently? I thought you Canadians were meant to be the healthy outdoors types. And you have free healthcare just like your commonwealth bretherin (although arguably better Dentists). Can't you just greenscreen it and superimpose yourself in a video of eagles mating?

This is my Tetra, bitches. My studio wins.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN No, but you also don't save up a hundred grand to buy that Ferrari and then put diesel in it, do you? Raphie arguably has one of the best setups on TA. If anyone has the kit to warrant being concerned with cables, it's him. What the fuck is going on with the health issues recently? I thought you Canadians were meant to be the healthy outdoors types. And you have free healthcare just like your commonwealth bretherin (although arguably better Dentists). Can't you just greenscreen it and superimpose yourself in a video of eagles mating?

because i want to look like I was a uboat commander and it is a red screen for that sort shot. The problem arises in that people did not think ahead and realize that we need more footage of uboats. Maybe i will do a 3d model or something.

health care in canada is fine when you get sick but they have no help for anything preventative or psychiatric. Its kinda fucked in that there are thousands of unemployed doctor s that can'r find work. Still better than the USA were getting sick means giving that kidney a second pass.

And although messy, like a real studio should be, I can do anything were as Raphie is stuck to mastering shit music. It is fucking messy tho. the problem is that a maid won't know were to put shit and i am just not able to keep up. I guess the scope of my ideas is so large that the wake is too much for a mere man to take care off.

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Originally posted by cryophonik This is my Tetra, bitches. My studio wins.

What no Prophet 12?

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yes the 300's stay, upgrading to the new ones is to expensive with not enough to gain, as I mainly use them as B monitors now. And the improvement is marginal/taste.

Have been looking ar vandamme blueline studio and requested a quote for 4 db25>xlr snakes, 6 db25 <> db25 snakes together with 40 tt patchcords 1ft. will probably again be another 1.200GBP and together with the TASCAM DSD recorder, it's going to be an expensive December again.

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Originally posted by tehlord What no Prophet 12?

Naw, I just picked this up because I got a good deal on it and because it's small enough to fit in my setup without having to expand my studio footprint. I really wanted a P12 desktop, but the prototype that Dave Smith has previewed looks a little too barren on the front panel for my taste. Actually, I think I'm lusting over the Nord Rack 4 more than the P12, based on the demos I've heard.

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Originally posted by cryophonik Naw, I just picked this up because I got a good deal on it and because it's small enough to fit in my setup without having to expand my studio footprint. I really wanted a P12 desktop, but the prototype that Dave Smith has previewed looks a little too barren on the front panel for my taste. Actually, I think I'm lusting over the Nord Rack 4 more than the P12, based on the demos I've heard.

i went exactly the oppositie way.
Had the nord 4r and traded it up to a P12, never looked back, the 4R is like massive in a box, for me it added nothing compared to VSTis
The P12 is just wow, the desktop version looks ugly though

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Originally posted by cryophonik This is my Tetra, bitches. My studio wins.

Yuck; Hosa cables

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Originally posted by cryophonik Have been looking ar vandamme blueline studio and requested a quote for 4 db25>xlr snakes, 6 db25 <> db25 snakes together with 40 tt patchcords 1ft. will probably again be another 1.200GBP and together with the TASCAM DSD recorder, it's going to be an expensive December again.

Raphie, you're a commercial business right? Ask for a trade account with trade. I used to work for them and can give you whatever advice you need about to spec them. By the way, make sure you get as specific as you possibly can;

Tail lengths, pliosil tails, numbers, labeling (i.e. "input snake 1" or "master outs 1-16") type of DB connectors (they have the really nice high quality metal ones etc), exact lengths etc.

The studio grade multicore they do is the industry standard at every great studio in the world. Abbey, Air, Olympic, Sarm, The Royal Opera House, Metropolis, Peter Gabriels real word, Brit Row.

Interesting Story: The Old Decca Studio in Hampstead London (where I'm from) was again up for lease after being the English National Opera rehearsal space for the last 25 years. It had the first gen of Van Damme cable installed and the owner of VD went to check out the place and found that after 25+ years of abuse all the tie lines, all the connections were still perfect.

Yes, pro, got customers, invoice and get paid.
I'm working with a vndamme configurator atm, which includes all you mentioned
I'm working with Digidesign Digisnakes atm, but epscially the XLR snake soldering is really bad (the db25's are ok though) and also some HOSA db25's which work fine, but are low end. they are really strong molded, haven't busted 1 yet, but just want homogene wiring all along. So vandamme blue it's gonna be 16 snakes in total, 96 patchpoints and full direct out / tape return from my SSL Alphalink
Only thing that's lacking now is a decent website, but i just can't be asked.Have decent business from word of mouth, but I guess I could do more promotion.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN Yuck; Hosa cables Raphie, you're a commercial business right? Ask for a trade account with trade. I used to work for them and can give you whatever advice you need about to spec them. By the way, make sure you get as specific as you possibly can; Tail lengths, pliosil tails, numbers, labeling (i.e. "input snake 1" or "master outs 1-16") type of DB connectors (they have the really nice high quality metal ones etc), exact lengths etc. The studio grade multicore they do is the industry standard at every great studio in the world. Abbey, Air, Olympic, Sarm, The Royal Opera House, Metropolis, Peter Gabriels real word, Brit Row. Interesting Story: The Old Decca Studio in Hampstead London (where I'm from) was again up for lease after being the English National Opera rehearsal space for the last 25 years. It had the first gen of Van Damme cable installed and the owner of VD went to check out the place and found that after 25+ years of abuse all the tie lines, all the connections were still perfect.

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