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Massive84
Old Relic
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Sequence Realm
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quote: | Originally posted by RiCo
Like the other guy said, when you're young, you have tons of time but not tons of money. When you finally make it in life, you don't have time to play. That's my case...I made it in life, got all what I wanted to start producing, but in vain because I don't have time. I can count with my two hands the number of times I've posted in this forum from my apartment. Most of the time is at work...when you get a good job and good money, you don't get good time to play with what you buy. |
so here comes the main question..
you have no time, why start producing or buying equipment?
seconds of all, you can always finish a track, evne if you spend 1 hour a week, you can spend it each week on the same project.
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Greetings. My name is Casey. You can call me Moose.
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Jul-04-2004 08:47
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Joel Kalsi
tranceaddict in training
Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Tampere, Finland
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I faced this same problem but luckily I still live at home and I haven't had the problem of paying rent and food during the past years. In 99-00 I went to polytechnic university, but I quit it to get more time for music. I used to go to work for a month or two to get my bills paid and to get some money on account, which I then spent during the next two months on bills and those months were always spent on music. It wasn't always fun (hardly ever ) to go find a new job, but I did this for some 3-4 years.
Now I'm studying at a school to be a media designer assistant, and I'm currently having my half a year period of work training, which belongs to the studies, and the best thing is I'm doing my training at our own record / production company. So all in all, my job at the moment is to do the kind of stuff that I usually do on my free time, and state pays me for it, because it's part of the studies. It's quite much about how much you dare to risk and play around with your finance side after all, but I think I've had some luck along as well.
We got nice setup after patching up gear for the past 7 years with two close friends, who are also producers and we've now finally moved to our own studio apartment (71 square meters in 5 rooms, the first studio room and vocal booth were already acousted (worth 7000e, we paid 1100e out of the stuff for the past owner) when we moved in). Currently everything we produce gets released, and despite the fact it's hard to get money out of the business, I'm quite happy about the situation
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Jul-05-2004 17:57
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Flexburg
tranceaddict in training
Registered: Oct 2003
Location: Tonsberg, Norway
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Jul-16-2004 02:03
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CynepMeH
Let me wash your Apple!
Registered: Oct 2002
Location: Miles away from ordinary...
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quote: | Originally posted by Derosas
You make success sound lame man. I would rather have time to produce than make tons of money. I need a place to dump all my creative energy. screw a "good" job if it takes up your whole life. |
ugh... and how do you intend to pay for all the gear? Or rent? Or food?
Q: "What do you call a musician without a girlfriend?"
A: "Homeless"
Do you think that shranz pays the bills???? HAHAHAHAHAH!!!! I know plenty of professional musicians who play day in and day out, for 8 hours a day at least. They make a lousy living - for studio musicians, maybe 40K a year, if they are lucky. If you want to produce your own stuff and you're "electronic" - you might as well forget about it. Most of producers in Trance started out as part time, and only after successful track (and money to go with it) you can consider taking some time off to do "your thing". There's no way in hell I'd dump my full time job to be a full time musician, unless I had my wife to support me. Which is, sadly, not the case. Even then, I'm not sure I'd be happy knowing that I might never make it.
For me, music is just a hobby for now - it's a way to get away from it all and keep me sane. But at the same time, I notice that my job suffers, I don't spend enough time with my loved ones, and I had dumped an obscene sum of money into my so-called "studio". I gave myself until the end of the year to see at least one fruit of my labor. If that doesn't happen, I'm dumping all my hardware and keeping just the basic things needed to operate in a software realm and do it at my leisure without any expectations of success.
It's a tough business to make in - just take a look how much music is surfacing nowdays. How many tallented producers don't get signed and those that do, get pennies. My buddy manages a GC and produces Industrial in his spare time. He was signed to a label for 3 years, produced 2 albums and made a grand total of $17,000! Meanwhile, his gear cost him close to $30,000 and he didn't work in that time.
What does that tell you?
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Jul-18-2004 00:14
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Limit
AKA:STEVE QUADRA
Registered: Feb 2004
Location: A State of Trance
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don't worry guys i'm working a new concept of marketing potential for music...in my opinion no matter what, music will never die...there will just be more...possibilities:
well could break to a point where there's hardly anybody getting signed because of high cost and no ROI...then people(the clubbers & DJ's) will go to home producers(their firends..friends of friends ect.,) for new shit...these home studio kind a guys(us) will become the major players in the production of music. Labels will try and capitalize on the market once again, becasue they see the marketing potential and then it will bomb out again...it's a vicious cycle.
Thats probably abunch of crap but hey who knows? And don't ask me what the new concept i'm working on...i don't even know yet...but i know i'm working on it..lol.
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Jul-18-2004 03:10
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