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Originally posted by Storyteller A complete overhaul of the remix I posted several weeks ago. Not really happy about this yet. Some parts progress too little and others too fast making it feel a bit incoherent to me. But I know where I want to go with it so I'm guessing it will all be alright. Some feedback would be nice.

Matt, this is one of those tracks from you (lol at least a WIP so far) which I really enjoyed - this smooth melancholic flavor make this music really appealing to my taste. Your drums + bass line works perfectly together which give this track a solid core to develop the rest of your sounds/structure base on

Way to go man

Cheers,

Darek

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Originally posted by Storyteller The vibe on this is pretty intense. Would like to see a deeper kick and possible some sidechained ducking on the bass and possibly lower the bassline volume a tiny bit. The atmosphere is really really good. If you can get the beat rolling a bit more you're gold imo.

yeah im thinking the same about the kick, doesnt extend low enough imo

would not bin this, really nice piece of work. Love the bass, reminds me of old Luke Chable stuff, what are you using for that kind of bass??

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Originally posted by optik it's not trance - what do you think? needs a bit of work in the last 3 minutes cheers t

love the intro, really nice, would make a nice opening track for a set this i think.
I wouldnt have added the click to the kick at 3 minutes as i dont think it needs it

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Originally posted by Storyteller Really nice production. Vocals feel a tad too loud to my taste. Especially the sibilance is hard on my ears. Other than that really cool vibe going on. Well done . A complete overhaul of the remix I posted several weeks ago. Not really happy about this yet. Some parts progress too little and others too fast making it feel a bit incoherent to me. But I know where I want to go with it so I'm guessing it will all be alright. Some feedback would be nice.

@seandroid, wouldnt be into this kind of music but thats a really strong production there, very good stuff

@storyteller, different style from you and its really nice, lovely feel to it, would be perfect for summertime listening id say...

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Originally posted by Innocence Lost

dude you really need to try something different, i feel like every track is the same from you

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Originally posted by Innocence Lost

Yeah, I have to agree with evo8. It's another two-minute intro that doesn't really go anywhere, doesn't establish any sort of tension that needs to be released, has no melodic elements.

I mean sure, your actual sound design is lovely. But there's no there, there.

I'm going to echo the advice I gave you a couple dozen pages back: turn off all the toys. Fire up FL. Load up Sytrus with the Grand Piano preset. Write a melody. Write some harmonies for it. When they start gelling together, then turn on all the gear and start assigning sounds.

Thanks guys. This whip was aiming at trancelover (because of my last WIP I didn't have right) so this is to correct that one) about kick and bass and fitness. Wasn't really aiming at tension or any of that.

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In that case, go back and fix what was wrong with the first one. Doing the exact same thing over and over again is just going to lead you to frustration.

And tension is arguably the single most important factor in any music. Dance music doubly so, trance triply so; tracks don't work without the buildup of tension--rhythmically, through dissonance, repetition, or any of a thousand other ways--and its release. Trance is all about ups and downs, builds and releases, and if you're presenting something as a work in progress (as opposed to a technical exercise) that needs to be a consideration from the moment you begin structuring the track.

I mean, what feedback are we supposed to provide on this work in progress? It's an intro with nice sound design and that's about it. Kick, hat, bass, some floaty FX. If this is actually in progress, there needs to be something there to critique, and it needs to show it's actually doing something.

If all you were doing was a technical exercise in mixing, that's not a WIP and I'd question its fitness or utility in the context of this thread's purpose.

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Originally posted by MSZ Probably going to bin this, slow anticlimactic and loopy(wait thats like all my tracks), any thoughts before so?

I really dig this. I was easily able to relax and fall into the music. You call it anticlimactic, I call it soothing, almost meditative, personaly I dig these sorts of tracks, especially on albums, they can take the listener to another place for a while.

To be honest, I wouldnt have thought it was a bit loopy if you didnt say anything, kinda adds to the hypnotizing nature of it, but I can see what you are saying, maybe the top end drum elements can be reworked, maybe you can buss those elements together and run them through some sort of crazy plugin that really stuffs with audio and see what comes out the other end?

Personaly I wouldnt bin it, I think the song is there. my 2 cents!

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Originally posted by deegee In that case, go back and fix what was wrong with the first one. Doing the exact same thing over and over again is just going to lead you to frustration. And tension is arguably the single most important factor in any music. Dance music doubly so, trance triply so; tracks don't work without the buildup of tension--rhythmically, through dissonance, repetition, or any of a thousand other ways--and its release. Trance is all about ups and downs, builds and releases, and if you're presenting something as a work in progress (as opposed to a technical exercise) that needs to be a consideration from the moment you begin structuring the track. I mean, what feedback are we supposed to provide on this work in progress? It's an intro with nice sound design and that's about it. Kick, hat, bass, some floaty FX. If this is actually in progress, there needs to be something there to critique, and it needs to show it's actually doing something. If all you were doing was a technical exercise in mixing, that's not a WIP and I'd question its fitness or utility in the context of this thread's purpose.

k bro.

Hey guys,

heres a song I did a while ago, am thinking about reworking it to bring it up to date. Im so used to hearing this the way it is (because of listening to it a million times) that im finding it hard to get creative with it again. Ive lost that "fresh" listen aspect. So im after mainly songwriting, arrangement sound design advice, etc. Not really mix related stuff cause its a rough mix. Thanks guys,