So fucking sweet. Amazing job Ryan. I bet you've had some epic parties in there. Grats on getting traktor to work. If only it was that simple with serato (I have a feeling it is, but no one has properly tried yet).

I missed the livestream though

I have to say dualSF do such a good job. Did the rane just drop right in there? Is it the same footprint as the 900?

Looks like you need to raise the rane by about 1/4 or 1/2 though. My OCD wouldn't allow it not to be flush lol

EDIT: by the way, how are you getting on with rotaries? I know you had the 2016 so I imagine it's never been an issue for you but I've always been a fader guy. There is a rotary kit for my PMC 55 but I've never bothered. What's your take?

Ace pics.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN So fucking sweet. Amazing job Ryan. I bet you've had some epic parties in there. Grats on getting traktor to work. If only it was that simple with serato (I have a feeling it is, but no one has properly tried yet). I missed the livestream though I have to say dualSF do such a good job. Did the rane just drop right in there? Is it the same footprint as the 900? Looks like you need to raise the rane by about 1/4 or 1/2 though. My OCD wouldn't allow it not to be flush lol EDIT: by the way, how are you getting on with rotaries? I know you had the 2016 so I imagine it's never been an issue for you but I've always been a fader guy. There is a rotary kit for my PMC 55 but I've never bothered. What's your take?

The mixer dropped right in. I just had DualSF build me the new mixer panel for the DJM-900, so now I can drop in my old panel for a 19"rack mount mixer, or this one for a 12" regular one. What really drives my OCD nuts is they used 5/8" plywood for the new panel when the old one was 1/2", so the new panel sits up about 1/8" of an inch and isn't flush. I've learned to deal with it. The booth is from 2008 and it's already seen a bunch of different gear and is in great condition.

I love rotaries. You have more control, it's smoother, etc. This mixer is butter. With the filters, EQ's and the Isolator, plus it being rotary, it's very easy to mix smoothly and blend.

Holy output on this thing. I actually had a question for Rane, since it seemed like the inputs were too hot (I was being good, and mixed at the 0 mark on the mixer meter LED's). The Rane engineer said this mixer is designed to mix at +10! I guess if DJ's are going to crank up the gains anyway, might as well make the mixer work that way

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Originally posted by Ryan0751 Holy output on this thing. I actually had a question for Rane, since it seemed like the inputs were too hot (I was being good, and mixed at the 0 mark on the mixer meter LED's). The Rane engineer said this mixer is designed to mix at +10! I guess if DJ's are going to crank up the gains anyway, might as well make the mixer work that way

Exactly what I was (trying) to explain to some pioneer product designers a couple of years ago.
Why not take into account that lots of people just don't care, and mix to the red (or beyond) and therefore make what appears to be peak , not actually peak.

They didn't listen.

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Originally posted by Ryan0751 The mixer dropped right in. I just had DualSF build me the new mixer panel for the DJM-900, so now I can drop in my old panel for a 19"rack mount mixer, or this one for a 12" regular one. What really drives my OCD nuts is they used 5/8" plywood for the new panel when the old one was 1/2", so the new panel sits up about 1/8" of an inch and isn't flush. I've learned to deal with it. The booth is from 2008 and it's already seen a bunch of different gear and is in great condition. I love rotaries. You have more control, it's smoother, etc. This mixer is butter. With the filters, EQ's and the Isolator, plus it being rotary, it's very easy to mix smoothly and blend. Holy output on this thing. I actually had a question for Rane, since it seemed like the inputs were too hot (I was being good, and mixed at the 0 mark on the mixer meter LED's). The Rane engineer said this mixer is designed to mix at +10! I guess if DJ's are going to crank up the gains anyway, might as well make the mixer work that way

Thanks for the info Ryan, may have to get the rotary kit now!

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Originally posted by Alex Exactly what I was (trying) to explain to some pioneer product designers a couple of years ago. Why not take into account that lots of people just don't care, and mix to the red (or beyond) and therefore make what appears to be peak , not actually peak. They didn't listen.

Lol, sounds like pioneer. I've never understood why pioneer use consumer references on their I/O for "pro" kit. It's not like you're hooking up a DJM 900 or 1000 to a £50 ghetto blaster.

It doesn't make sense, especially when (unlike formula or vestax or rane) you really drive the gains in to the red, they sound like shit.

Make the output hot and you force gain staging on the DJ. Make them weak and that fistpumping twat will redline it every time.

I can set the master outs to -20, -10 or 0 and 0 is so fucking hot I can barely get enough channel gain to make the LED's spike.

Hey Ryan have you tried other programs like Mixx, deckadence, mix vibes for absolute mode.

If you still have tractor 1 timecode lying around you can use Mixxx for free and run it smoothly with the rane i'm sure. Give it a try.

I haven't need to. I've been using timecode in Traktor just fine

Wow i want one.

Fuck, I had a bit of crazy house party for the missus birthday, but I realized that one of the upfaders is going on my PMC 55.

So it may be time to try the rotary set, but I'm worried I'll like it and get GAS for the Rane lol.

One thing I really love about the PMC is the two discrete master outs so one room can have one feed at one volume, and the other room can have the other. Does the rane have this? and by that I mean two volume controls, one for each master.

It's a bit different. On the Rane MP-2016s, there were two sets of master outs, an RCA set and a balanced XLR set. They were controlled by the same master knob.

On the MP-2015, you have only XLR outputs for the master, with a master control knob.

But, you have the versatile "Session Out" output set. You can plug in another zone there, and control the volume with the session output knob.

I'm also using session out for my "record out", since there isn't a separate "record out" on the back. If you use the USB soundcard to record, you can record your set on that (which isn't affected by the session out volume knob), but still use the RCA's to go to another zone.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN Fuck, I had a bit of crazy house party for the missus birthday, but I realized that one of the upfaders is going on my PMC 55. So it may be time to try the rotary set, but I'm worried I'll like it and get GAS for the Rane lol. One thing I really love about the PMC is the two discrete master outs so one room can have one feed at one volume, and the other room can have the other. Does the rane have this? and by that I mean two volume controls, one for each master.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN Fuck, I had a bit of crazy house party for the missus birthday, but I realized that one of the upfaders is going on my PMC 55. So it may be time to try the rotary set, but I'm worried I'll like it and get GAS for the Rane lol. One thing I really love about the PMC is the two discrete master outs so one room can have one feed at one volume, and the other room can have the other. Does the rane have this? and by that I mean two volume controls, one for each master.

Rotary, all the way....feels so much more natural when adjusting the level.
As you know, I am a big fan of rotary stuff

(temporary location, third 1200 and a few other pieces are on vacation right now, so not the best picture)

Here is the rotary kit for you:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vestax-DF-5...=item58c009549b

Or a replacement fader set if you want to stick with what you have:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/F-S-Vestax-...=item3cf4fef8e6