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Sand Leaper
Tension hunter
Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Oslo, Norway
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| quote: | Originally posted by jonmitz
haven't really started at all. been researching what is generally acceptable as 'industrial' music so i dont piss a bunch of people off. not too confident i will get this done by the oct 3 date but we'll see.
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If you need some more pointers, Adam X's L.I.E.S. podcast shows off the kind of music I had in mind brilliantly, and across various sub genres of "industrial", too.
I'm pretty much set for my entry, but all the drums in the music I'm playing are played by humans, so I'm having trouble mixing it without turning the transitions into a complete cacophony of percussion and hats. I'll get it done, but it won't be until shortly before the deadline, as I have a lot of stuff going on in my life otherwise.
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"Wenn du dich zum Untergrund zählst, reicht es nicht, es nur zu sagen. Du musst auch viel graben, um es zu werden."
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Bierheld
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Aug 2010
Location: Utrecht, Netherlands
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Ok, I'm done I think. For explanations and background info I'd refer you to the boring ramble down below. If you don't care then here's the mix and TL:
Cloudcasts by bierheld on Mixcloud
Nitro Deluxe – Let’s Get Brutal (Aldo Martin Remix) [Cutting Records, 1987]
Floppy Sounds – Ultrasong [Wave Music, 1994]
Francois K – Mindspeak [Wave Music, 1996]
Floppy Sounds – Ultrasong (Studio A mix) [Wave Music, 1995]
Armand Van Helden, The Banana Spiffs – Crusty The Cavemen (Land Of The Lost Mix) [Cutting Records, 1994]
The Daou - Give Myself To You feat. Vanessa Daou (Buzzard Dub) [TRIBAL, 1994]
Kim English - Nite Life (Sound Factory Version) [Nervous Records, 1994]
George Morel - Let's Groove (Original Mix) [Strictly Rhythm, 1992]
CL McSpadden - I Can't Stop Going (Original Mix) [Maxi Records, 1992]
Winx - Up BW Feeling Good (Nervous Mix) [Nervous Records, 1992]
Floppy Sounds - Actual Footage (Original Mix) [Wave Music, 1995]
DL: https://www.sendspace.com/file/pjzwgs
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Right, so I mentioned I had some difficulties with this. Really they were all self-imposed. Upon getting garage as my assigned genre the NY hard-house debate was still on the back of my mind, which I think influenced the result here. Given the fact that this was supposed to be a challenge I had basically confined myself very early on to try and get as close to an original and authentic view of the genre as I could. For this I’d have to work in it’s infancy, as I just don’t know what this genre is about no matter how many vague quotes and descriptions I read about it. I just wasn’t convinced this was doable for this challenge.
Unfortunately what I’d feared would happen indeed became a reality. Beatport doesn’t really have much in the way of 80’s dance music, a few seminal releases but nothing I could really make a mix out of. Everything else from that era will have been hidden in more recent rereleases, and tracking all those back to see what year they actually came from just didn’t seem like fun to me.
So I gradually loosened the cuffs a little bit. I consulted the genre’s Wikipedia entry and traced some of the supplied artists and labels down on beatport, I basically decided to stick with whatever struck my fancy from them. I ended up with what is mostly early nineties material, hoping the mere theoretical proximity would be enough to classify them as being part of the garage scene.
One of the major finds from that page was Francois K and his label wave music, which was was of help in supplying enough interesting material to initially trigger my motivation. As such the imprint ended up being featured heavily in the first half of the mix. Some of them definitely seem to drift towards techno and house genres, but I figure that’s just a consequence of dance music being in a very experimental phase at the time. I also tried the paradise garage wiki but that contained such a clusterfuck of styles and artists I figured it best to just forget about it.
What I ended up with was just over a dozen songs, hardly a fifth of what I’m used to working with in terms of pool-sizes. Combine that with the fact that I haven’t done a proper dance-music mix in almost a decade and you’ve got yourself another problem.
The initial plan was that I was going to do some sampling work with the few 80’s tracks I’d managed to pick up. They weren’t going to fit in very well with the more polished and vocal-starved material from the 90’s but I still wanted to add a subtle suggestion of heritage to the mix somehow.
This was what I was breaking my head over in the first week, I had made some minor progress on the mixing front but the more I experimented with it the more it became clear to me that all this work was going to be of no benefit to the actual mix and certainly not to my attitude towards it.
I figured that at the end of the day it’s just dance music, it doesn’t need to be a history lesson. I set aside the quasi-artistic aspirations and set out to just mix the damn thing.
And so I did, sat down after a night out on Saturday and it was done barely an hour later.
Listened to it today. It’s definitely a bit half-assed and lazy, but I’m okay with that. Did some minor polishing work and rendered it out shortly after. I hope it will be of some enjoyment to however ends up listening to it. I'm just glad to get it out of my life.
As for the challenge, I’m not sure if I’ll do this again. I’m just not one for studying genres, it doesn’t interest me and I never seem able to get a grip on it. I still can’t explain to anyone what garage music is really supposed to be other then a regional offshoot in early house music that ended up growing more and more ambiguous and undefinable, but I suppose I did learn of some interesting music anyway. I hardly managed to challenge myself in the end because of my ever present ambivalence to the subject though, and that’s a bit of a shame I guess.
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Mixes: Alaé (Conceptional ambient dub)
AOTSE (Experimental)
Listens:
http://www.last.fm/user/bierheld
Last edited by Bierheld on Sep-15-2014 at 00:36
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