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DJ RANN
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: May 2001
Location: Hollywood....
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Stay the fuck away from reloops.
Just google reloop problems and you'll find dozens of threads.
The thing people don't realize is that technics got the 1200's right.
More torq isn't necessarily a good thing (see the vestax decks for details).
A heavier case doesn't mean better (see the Pioneer decks for more details)
I could go on but you get the point.
You also know when you buy techs, that you're buying a product that will last at least 25 years of daily use if you look after it. Furthermore it does what it needs to; if you can't mix on technics, you really shouldn't ever try to DJ.
Sound quality difference in negligible regarding the deck itself; the needle, the mixer the cables, the soundcard used etc will all have a much bigger impact on the sound than the deck itself.
The price of second hand technics will still be high but now the new non-two grand each version of the 1200GA is coming out, the second hand value of the original models will porbably come down to slightly more normal prices again.
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Jan-26-2017 18:07
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captinjuan
Suspended User
Registered: Jul 2004
Location: Hallandale Beach FL
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Like palm says, "it" is a once in a life time investment. Weighing at only 24 lbs or 25, can't remember which but one of those, like it matters. Anyway I have reloop 7000's and they don't give me any trouble at all. They are certainly not the best at performance like a technics but they kinda still do the job, also FYI its a han pin clone or how ever you call it thats not made from scratch, like a super OEM, Rann knows.
The biggest problem everyone is complaining about is the loose tone arm everyone gets when buying new and other crap. It was the dumbest choice I ever made selling my m5g's for just one cdj2000 nexus so i can have 2.
Just save man, its what i'm doing. First gotta get rid of the re-poops.
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Jan-31-2017 04:25
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DJ RANN
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: May 2001
Location: Hollywood....
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The reloops aren't "terrible" in fairness, they are a super-OEM technically but they went with a different tonearm and motor setup so it's more of a hybrid-OEM.
The problem is that they tried to polish something already close to perfect and made some mistakes, like the tonearm etc. The other thing is, why do you need +16 or +50? Not like you can ever use it realistically. I've done mods for people who really wanted it and they never get used.
It's nice that the deck is midi programmable/mappable but really, what's the point? Get a dicer or a midi pad and a Tech.
When the GR's come out and are readily available (lnless something is wrong with the way they build them which is highly doubtful) every other DJ deck company is going out of business again. Reloop will discontinue their decks and the OEM's will dry up.
Personally I'm keeping my MK5G's as I just don't see enough of a difference between them and the new GR's, but if I needed a new set or was buying for the first time, I wouldn't think twice. I paid $800 per Mk5g (and about 400quid for my original mk2's) and honestly, I don't think I've really ever bought any goods that last that well for that price.
The only problem I ever had with techs was I bought m3d's when they first came out. They were USA only and when i moved back to the UK I had to use them with a transformer and they didn't keep time properly. I'm convinced the transformer (a pretty expensive one) wasn't properly regulated and was messing with the timing but I sold them for more than I paid
Technics became the industry standard for a very good reason; it wasn't a badge thing, and it wasn't a pricepoint thing - it was becuase they worked, can hold a 5 minute mix without wavering and could take a kicking and survive. The same is still true, 35 years later.
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Jan-31-2017 20:48
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DJ RANN
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: May 2001
Location: Hollywood....
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Congrats. There have been advances, but what small extra features have come, have been at the expense of fundamental advantages such as durability and build quality, so they're really not worth they payoff.
If someone had made a straight up oem technics that could put out a stream of platter positional data, that would have have swayed me but it's not come to pass yet.
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Feb-01-2017 16:17
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DJ RANN
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: May 2001
Location: Hollywood....
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quote: | Originally posted by Zak McKracken
To me the MK2 is the only real one (1979-2010), not sure any product of this decade can compare with that (perhaps the M113 armored personnel carrier, may it live forever). |
There's very little full stop that compare. The tank is a great example, that shit has been used since the 60's as is basically the same model. Try to think of any manufactured product that basically hasn't changed in 50 years+. It's virtually impossible.
Even the Tech Mk2's were really just a further refinement of the mk1's which were 90% there anyway and were launched in 1972. It wasn't just ahead of it't time, it was so fucking well made 40 years of innovation hasn't superceded it.
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Feb-06-2017 18:58
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