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Mastering a DJ Mix
I've recently started DJing again after a looong time. I have some big releases coming up after all, so I have to be ready for the gigs :P
Anyway, I sometimes check on discogs at compilations and mixes and stuff by guys like Armin, Ferry, etc. I have noticed their DJ mixes are often mastered. What I am wondering is that common? What is the point of that if each individual track is mastered? Do weekly radio shows get mastered? I am just curious about any info about mastering DJ mixes.
get a new profile pic on you sound cloud. And don't smile in that one until you get your teeth fixed. Stuff only a good manager would have the balls to tell you.
To answer your question
yes but not really how you think. You should be doing your own edits of tracks you play. Those edits should have a slight EQ profile. And yes you will be compressing just a little bit more for podcasts knowing that it is played in headphones. It sounds like shit on speakers, that isn't what people are using.
if you are using a track that you haven't done some sort of edit to customize if to your style of djing, learn to dj. If you are gonna do it anyways, donate money or something to minimize your artistic footprint and the shit you are adding to the planet.
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| Originally posted by Looney4Clooney get a new profile pic on you sound cloud. And don't smile in that one until you get your teeth fixed. Stuff only a good manager would have the balls to tell you. To answer your question yes but not really how you think. You should be doing your own edits of tracks you play. Those edits should have a slight EQ profile. And yes you will be compressing just a little bit more for podcasts knowing that it is played in headphones. It sounds like shit on speakers, that isn't what people are using. if you are using a track that you haven't done some sort of edit to customize if to your style of djing, learn to dj. If you are gonna do it anyways, donate money or something to minimize your artistic footprint and the shit you are adding to the planet. |
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was for me. I wouldn't manage you or ever put you on a stage looking like that. You look 12. You look like you carry a pocket bible. ]
music doesn't sell the artist. And that picture and your background to me says dork who thinks other producers are his market. You are getting support from dis , you want to dj , you need a manager and a manager doesn't give a fuck what your music sounds like. Well ideally they might but it doesn't really matter
yes this sounds really abrasive but this is really the candy coated version of what will happen in real life.
Correction, pocket Book of Mormon...
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| Originally posted by Looney4Clooney was for me. I wouldn't manage you or ever put you on a stage looking like that. You look 12. You look like you carry a pocket bible. ] music doesn't sell the artist. And that picture and your background to me says dork who thinks other producers are his market. You are getting support from dis , you want to dj , you need a manager and a manager doesn't give a fuck what your music sounds like. Well ideally they might but it doesn't really matter yes this sounds really abrasive but this is really the candy coated version of what will happen in real life. |
Fuck Richie, you don't mince the words lol.
Honestly, though Caleb, he's right (not about the teeth - that looks distinctly un-british - more about the super dorm room photo). Sadly Image is everything in the DJ world. I can think of at least two different big name producers (who were incredibly well respected for their prolific and high quality productions) who didn't have a fucking clue how to DJ yet had at least 5 major trance hits each, when their managers talked them in to DJing even though they didn't want to, just becuasr they had the look (one one a pretty boy and the other had that very LA music producer look).
They were instant hits as DJ's and now most people really know either one as a DJ when really it was a tool to get famous.
Just look at someone like Zedd - he looks about 12, and as if he just got caught by his boarding school teacher for looking at "big and plump monthly". Yet he had a couple of hits and management figured out a haircut and some clothes and Robert's your mother's uncle.
If you don't want a photo, go to a local university and ask a design student whose in to street art to make a logo for you. job done.
Wait did you say Mormon? Fuck it. Get Kaskade's details and let him know you're also fellow straight edge, Jospeh Smith, I'm getting my own planet with a ton of wives, worshipper and you're set.
Nah I am joking about being Mormon.
In about 2 months I am getting professional pictures. I think I just need to be styled right when I go.
Sharing fashion tips in the DJ booth is exactly the reason I no longer want anything to do with this fucking scene.
It depends on what you're mixing on and how you're recording it. If you put together a mix in a DAW (as most promo mixes are these days) you shouldn't really need to do much post-production on it. If it sounds good in your headphones and through your speakers, it's passed the test. It's that simple.
Just noticed on Traktor it defaults to -6db of headroom. That is how much I generally leave for mastering on a track. Seems like that is there to allow for mastering of your mix.
limiter > softclipper. In a radio enviroment I wouldnt be surprised if they ran it through a ton of rack'ed gear to give its own flavour. Wasnt the bbe sonic maximizer used a lot?
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| Originally posted by Trancelover03591 Just noticed on Traktor it defaults to -6db of headroom. That is how much I generally leave for mastering on a track. Seems like that is there to allow for mastering of your mix. |
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| Originally posted by DJ RANN I believe NI did this because they knew that your average dj is a complete muppet when it comes to gain staging and clipping, so -6dbfs is safe, and about as low as you can go before the level is too quiet. There's really no need to master a DJ mix; all the tracks are (allegedly) mastered so you're just mastering a master at that point. MSZ is right; for radio they slap mixes though things like the BBE unit and Opto compressors, but that as more becuase of tiny radio speakers and crappy headphones having to reproduce badly squished FM signals. With a DJ mix, the most critical things are a nice clean signal path and proper gain staging. you want your mix at hot as possible (as close to 0dbfs as possible) without any peaks clipping. If you mix to a lower value, then afterwards, try to raise the level (with or without compression) you're making your mix more noisy. Why? because the noisefloor is a set thing and recorded as part of the music. Therefore if you increase the volume after the fact, you're also multiplying the noisefloor by the same gain factor, whereas, if you record as loud as you can without clipping the noise floor remains low while the music is loud. |
Heya,
Been a while.
It always depends on what you are doing with it.
In truth most if not all of the major mixers don't have the 0db actually at that point, it's often much higher, the same with Traktor etc. They know most DJs even in this day and age red line the shit out of mixers, even the pros.
Getting too obsessed with the mastering aspect is completely unnecessary in my world to be honest. You should be focusing more effort on what makes you NOT sound like everyone else, and I can assure you that this will not be the mastering.
Exactly what Loony4Clooney said, it should be edits and your EQ on the track that really define you. Most listeners will react to what you do to the music more than anything.
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