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Complaint Department (Take a Number)

Since our forum software lacks flagging or community moderation capabilities, I've created this thread to deal with specific complaints about forum activity.

Please use this thread and only this thread to report:

• Duplicate threads
  
• Spam or advertising
  
• Blatant flame-bait
  
• Anything else that's in clear violation of the rules

I think this thread...

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...2&forumid=48&s=

...could be merged with this thread:

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...0&forumid=48&s=

I'll go ahead and erase my posts in the second thread. Great idea, sorry about the mess, and most importantly, thanks. Regardless of what you decide, I'll keep out of both, from now on.

EDIT: Also, sorry I completely missed this, earlier. I'd have totally preferred to use this solution had I been paying attention. I think it's a great idea, too.

[I don't consider those two the same, as the second one is asking about creating a specific effect vs. the first one just looking for generic effects. However, JBJ has linked to an actual duplicate in the first case, so I'll deal with that when I get home. -DG]

[Update: Having had more time to read through the questions and answers, I really don't think that any of the answers to the old thread actually answer the new question, which is specific to FL Studio. In order for this de-duping not to cause chaos, the threads really have to address exactly the same subject. I'm going to clarify this above soon. - DG]

Thanks for making this thread mate, totally agree with everything you've said. Although this board is old, I note that IDM forums has much better layouts and organisation going on, they have tags, more subforums, and a bunch of other cool stuff we don't. If they're on the same system as us, can we get some of that stuff too? It'd go a long way to improving things around here. I think even gearslutz might have tags now, so we're a fair way behind.

My first complaint is about the stickies, can we rearrange how they work a bit? It would help if there were maybe only 2-3 of them (one about remix comps doesn't probably help that much) and if they were in a bigger font (I didn't notice you'd even posted this thread at first).

More importantly, I noticed that the tutorial master list hasn't been updated since 2009, would it be an idea to start a thread to get people's input as to what should be in there? I'm sure a lot of people have links to good tutes and threads saved, and these could be leveraged to build a better list IMO.

Lastly, I was wondering if we could get a sticky linking to common topics (like mastering, software vs hardware etc) and if those single threads could hold the debates about those topics. This would clear up a lot of the clutter and make things run smoother IMO. If any thread about mastering could be merged back into the sticky, it would clear up a lot of the problems we've been having with duplication.

[1. We're on a much older version of vBulletin that's been rev-locked by heavy customization, so I doubt we can do those things. 2. I unstuck one yesterday, agree about the remix comps since it hasn't turned out the way people obviously hoped. As for fonts, I don't know how to do that and don't think it's possible. 3. I've always asked people to send recommendations for updates to the tutorial master list. You can make a new thread if you want, or just post in there. 4. Those should go in the FAQ, I just need actual links. -DG]

I have a wish about the stickies too.

COuld we combine the three threads Tutorial Master List, Recomended books, Music Producion FAQ, into one, and maybe fix them up a litte, removing old links, making it a little easier for a noob to go through.

im glad you removed the album thing, and remixes as a sticky; those are just normal threads. the less stickies the better.

edit: code of conduct could be included in the merged thread too imo. just a thread called "PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING".

[I had actually planned to merge the FAQ and tutorials. However, it just takes a ridiculous amount of time to maintain those given the tools available (mainly, a textarea with BBCode). If someone wants to volunteer, then by all means... otherwise it's kind of a low priority (but I agree on the concept).

As for the rules, I think those should stay separate; there's a point of diminishing returns; the more information you throw at somebody, the less they're going to want to pay attention. It's really important for people to know the rules, and less important for them to read the tutorials. -DG]

I have a suggestion about adding subs into the tutorial list for tips tricks and hints about using different daws, 1 for Ableton, 1 for Logic, 1 for Cubase, etc etc which we could all add and input to. This may then stop daw spicific questions being raised like for example "how do I do multiband sidechaining in Ableton?" as the answer would be in the list already.
Then if any questions do arise in the main forum that are not in the lists, and get answered, the answer could then be moved into the appropriate daw sub-section and put in as a tip or what ever to create a big resource list.


Just a thought..

[If the request is for generic miscellaneous "tips and tricks" threads then I'll have to politely decline - those threads invariably end up being inscrutable monsters of use to no one.

Sections in the tutorial thread - absolutely, if we have enough content to actually section off. If you think something should be added, post it in the thread or PM me; if it's worthy of adding then it will happen. -DG]

Spam?

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...5&forumid=48&s=

[Well, it is production-related, and we don't really have a policy against that kind of promotion (maybe we should). I'm not prepared to issue a suspension for it, but in light of the fact that this user has made no other contributions, I've locked the thread to prevent it from being bumped. -DG]

quote:

Originally posted by kitphillips Spam? http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...5&forumid=48&s= [Well, it is production-related, and we don't really have a policy against that kind of promotion (maybe we should). I'm not prepared to issue a suspension for it, but in light of the fact that this user has made no other contributions, I've locked the thread to prevent it from being bumped. -DG]

suggestion to make a Deals and promotions thread. anything else should either be locked or merged.

[Believe it or not, I had the same idea a long time back, but I wasn't sure that it was important enough to even bother asking about. I want to make sure the majority of the forum supports this idea so I'm going to take a poll on it. -DG]

quote:

Originally posted by diginut [I had actually planned to merge the FAQ and tutorials. However, it just takes a ridiculous amount of time to maintain those given the tools available (mainly, a textarea with BBCode). If someone wants to volunteer, then by all means... otherwise it's kind of a low priority (but I agree on the concept).

well just by combining them shouldnt be that much work?
The Tutorial "Master List" & Music Production FAQ. the contect can be edited in the future. and maybe unstick the books and link it inside the new combined thread? would tidy up this place a little and shouldnt be much work at all in the first step. when actually updating the content of it it will be work though.

[Having one massive monolithic FAQ only guarantees that no one will read it. What we actually really need are separate threads for each of the FAQs/tutorial subjects - that way the actual FAQ/tutorial thread can be kept short and sweet. All of this takes time, though, and I don't think a half-assed approach really benefits anyone.

I'll see what I can do about the books thread, but the FAQ and Tutorials, that's got to be done properly if it's going to be done at all. -DG]

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...12&pagenumber=6

Stupid rant where mister west27th is actually existo who has been banned multiple times. I'm hoping he can be once more.

[IP check confirmed, suspended. -DG]

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=596009

some wanker pushing warez, 5 of them on the first page.

[Suspended and deleted. -DG]

quote:

Originally posted by Storyteller http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...12&pagenumber=6 Stupid rant where mister west27th is actually existo who has been banned multiple times. I'm hoping he can be once more. [IP check confirmed, suspended. -DG]

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...o&userid=112663

existo again

[Turfed several days ago - forgot to update this post. -DG]

hello moderator

Hello,

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...d=&pagenumber=2

I consider these responses a little odd....Flame/bait it looks
like to me. Completely useless comments in a web forum dedicated to
all things regarding trance music. It's not a forum about how to use computers or Typing. My style of message typing works well...it gets a point across.

This is just ONE tiny example of the flaming/baiting i have had to suffer on this trance forum, since joining it.


This forum really does contain some very unfriendly communication(s)
and persuits.

Please warn these users to keep comments to the subject of trance music or don't comment. Simle as that. Tell them not to make random
useless un-informative dribble inside important threads.

Thankyou,

Vince.

[I'm not seeing anything particularly damning in there, certainly nothing worthy of a suspension or even a warning. If somebody criticizes you for not communicating clearly, that may indeed be unfriendly and perhaps a little rude, but it is not hostile or abusive, and people who can't tolerate any criticism are ultimately no more productive than those who constantly dish it out.

I'm sorry if you're disappointed by this response, but my role here is to intervene when there are severe problems, not to regulate politeness. If you're seeing a long-term pattern of negative behaviour on the part of one particular user, let me know via PM. -DG]

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...38#post10907338

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...3&forumid=48&s=

Spam

[Burninated. -DG]

[meandering rant removed]

[I thought I made it clear that decisions in here are final. If you feel that strongly about an issue then you can escalate to a PM, but I've already said that I find no substance in your broad and sweeping complaint. In any case, don't use this thread to argue. I'll just delete the replies next time... if I'm in a good mood. -DG]

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...9065&forumid=8&

existo spamming vinyl again. over the whole forum actually.

[As much as I'd like to help, my moderation privileges don't extend outside the Production Studio, so I can't delete those threads. Looks like the other mods already caught wind of his antics and suspended him, so there's not much more I can do personally. -DG]

I think you have archiving recovery options but I'm quoting this and putting it here for quick reference and in case the thread or the post gets deleted. I'll spare you the scope of my thinking on this as I'm pretty sure you already know. PM me otherwise...

The background on this particular episode is that Ortophon Child was making very small provocations to DJ Robby Rox in Senator Clay Davis's (Palm's) now deleted PS-Random Talking thread. Robby responded in his typical style (see below) exceeding Ortophon Child's word count by a 30:1 ratio. Palm then threatened to delete the entire thread if Robby didn't delete his posts, with Robby justifying his posts with an explanation that we're a self-policing lot; saying that he was the "good guy" who stood up for "what's right". In response to Palm's deletion, Robby started a thread of his own where the conflict continues.

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...31#post10914331

quote:

Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox Wow I'm a redneck eh? I'm from NJ smartguy, theres not really a whole lot of rednecks up here yah dumb shit. And explain this. If its blatantly clear to everyone on this forum that I despise you and have no respect for you whatsoever, where would the rationale be in me trying to befriend you? Now the important part. If at any point I tried to befriend you I would say "yeh I tried to befriend you and you were a dick about it so even more reason to hate you now". I don't exactly lose or gain anything from it. But I NEVER EVER EVER FUCKING tried to befriend you you lying dirtbag scumbag piece of shit. I will take a picture of all my sent messages, then another of the pm I actually sent you to prove what a lying low life you are. The message verbatim was sent 2 days ago and was titled: "You bring a whole new meaning..." [then inside the body it said] to the phrase bitter fagget. Seriously, you are a loser, get a fucking life. -----------end pm Now tell the forum where in that pm I tried to befriend you you lying dirtbag? Also, when I sent the pm I posted exactly what I wrote in the thread palm deleted more for entertainment then anything. So palm is a witness to exactly what I wrote, and I will also copy the shit to prove to the forum you're a lying fuck. I've had you on ignore for about a year now, and you know that, but you also don't think I read your posts. So nice try trying to slide that one by on me. And I wouldn't have a hint of embarassment or shame if I did write that to you, so again, no reason for ME to hide ANYTHING. Now copy and paste it you lying fuck. It'll take the forum a whole 2 seconds to discern that the language and style is not Robby Rox but your own made up bullshit. Before I end this last post to you. I will tell the forum what you're real problem is with me, and I also have proof which I'll gladly reference on request. To my fellow TA'ers. The answer to why orphanbitch is a bitter fucking loser. He came into a thread randomly once flaming and trashing peoples comments like a 5 year old, out of NOWHERE. Most random shit I've ever seen. Palm made a joking comment like "dude did your girl cheat on your or something". And in fact, orphanbitch had replied that yes, his exgf is a whorebag, and got busy sucking/fucking some other guy off. And that was the justification for the way he was acting (according to him). I wrote orphanbitch a bold and insightful message of advice (in the thread, I've only pm'd him once which I already c&pd). And explained what he needed to do to get over the situation. Well like any egomanical loser would do, orphan got even more mad. Taking genuine advice from a member who was genuinely trying to help him (and obviously more experienced with women) proved to be too much for his frail little ego to handle. And now sadly enough, it has come to him actually making up blatant lies just to piss me off. Thats sad. Thats really sad. Not to mention he is a walking/talking/breathing contradiction of a man. I saw him trashing uplifting trance one week, saying it all was gay cheesy garbage, then a couple weeks later I find out he makes uplifting. WTF?! I have to assume at this point that there is rude people, there are straight up assholes, but then there are purebred psychopaths. You are a psychpath. I AM better than you. I don't make up complete utter bullshit to impress people. Really dude thats the lamest thing I've seen you do till this day. You're a sad fucking loser pos. My music is better than yours and I never said I wanted to "compare" any of mine to yours. I said pick a genre and we will compete. Its obvious you don't want to do that now cause you're scared. I understand. And lets face it, noone actually seems to like you on here. Noone talks to you, 90% of the posts I see directed at you are in response to your bitter girlish fucking tirades. I'm definitely not perfect, but at least I have something called integrity. And you really do bring a whole new meaning to the phrase "bitter fagget". I will not be hijacking this thread anymore to deal with this lying loser. So noone needs to tell me to chill. Orphanbitch is an insecure loner who can't even keep his girl on a leash, and a lot of the anger you people see on these boards from him is anger he should be directing at his whorebag gf. I suppose she doesn't wanna know with him anymore, so by default he vents here. Go see a fucking therapist you kunt. I'm done trying to reason with your dumbass.

[I deleted the thread. Saw nothing worth salvaging in there.

If you see those two going at it again, let me know. I'm at the limit of my patience for ortofon's constant baiting and Robby's constant escalation, and if neither the deletion nor this message gets the attention of either one of them then suspensions may be in order. -DG]

spam:
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=599348&forumid=48&s=

[Moved to FS forum.

I edited out the rest of your post. No replies or discussion in this thread. -DG]

More spam..

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...9&forumid=48&s=

[Destroyed. -DG]

quote:

Originally posted by orTofønChiLd We all know why the first one was deleted so now im making a second one, rubbing cocks made one but that doesn't count cuz he's a douchebag. Post away guys

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...9&forumid=48&s=

Very tired of it - ortophon child baiting RobbyRox in another pointless thread.

[I am also extremely weary of this drama - far past the point of exhaustion. The thread has been deleted and orTofønChiLd has been issued a 3-week suspension. -DG]

and heres more of that shit:

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...1&forumid=48&s=

its getting incredibly boring.

[Thread deleted. I agree, it's become tedious, and it's unfortunate that there are people who think that egging them on is a good idea. -DG]

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...48&pagenumber=8

Even if it's not trolling, I hardly think it's worth letting it get to the level of the Mac vs. PC Debate to determine that it's useless.

quote:

Originally posted by Beatflux This goes along with the point that programming is one of those non essential skills DJs love to boast about. If people are going to see a producer/DJ and they have a great time, what does it matter if the programming is good or not? I would love to see a more humble DJ, one that does not act like the club world revolves around them. Most DJs could be replaced by a computer.

quote:

Originally posted by Beatflux The only essential DJ skill is playing tracks people want to hear. Everything else is non-essential. Things that aren't really important: Scratching FX Improvisation Beatmatching Phrase matching Phasing EQ "seemless" transitions pairing sonically identical tracks together Harmonic mixing Redlining(to a degree) sequencing tracks to create a "journey"

ortofonChild registered an alt lol:
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...o&userid=113240



[He hasn't posted in here yet. As long as he doesn't try anything "funny" before the end of his suspension, it's none of my business what he does in the other forums. Thanks for the tip though. -DG]

check your pms digi

[I already replied to your other account. Don't spam this thread again. -DG]

Robbyrox setting up a trap,im not falling for it

quote:

Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox You. are. a stupid bastard. And you sound like you're 16. Who gives a fuck? Some people prefer anonymity. Did your mother start drinking when she found out she was pregnant? Oh and hows the mom doing anyway?

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...2&forumid=48&s=

[Noted. Will be a warning this time, escalation if it continues. Thank you for not taking the bait. -DG]

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...82#post10957482

Existo again.

[See next post. -DG]

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