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Originally posted by optik If you're thinking of spending 4k on monitors without a treated room then you're plain crazy.. they won't help you get the sound you are striving for. (and I know no-one has told you to!) has this topic become a general discussion? surely the place to talk about monitors and how to sound pro is in the main room..

I would get the source first than treatment, I wouldn't want to sacrifice on each i had to get both at the same time.

Re: Re: Re: Shadow Inventor - WIP (Anakratis)

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Originally posted by TranceLover007 Andy, I think your bass line, arp and kick is killing all of your freq at the moment this is why sounds like everything is fighting for it's own space - idea sounds really cool but delivery will take some proper mix adjustment - my $0.02 Cheers man, Darek

Thanks darek appreciate it man

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Originally posted by optik has this topic become a general discussion? surely the place to talk about monitors and how to sound pro is in the main room..

Well I was looking for a little more feedback than the usual cool song bro!


But yeah point taken

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Originally posted by Andy28 Well I was looking for a little more feedback than the usual cool song bro!

Thanks man - regarding this topic, it's just easier to find things in the main room, if I want to reply to you about general production stuff I have to wade through pages and pages in here - it's a confusing topic at best - I vote we go back to posting WIPs in the main page!

Create a poll, you'll soon find out what everyone thinks.

I'll reserve my thoughts for later, then I'll jump on the bandwagon

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Originally posted by optik Thanks man - regarding this topic, it's just easier to find things in the main room, if I want to reply to you about general production stuff I have to wade through pages and pages in here - it's a confusing topic at best - I vote we go back to posting WIPs in the main page!

relax, the thread is fine as it is, there were about 3 or 4 off-topic posts

Let's put this way - I watch the development of this track right from the moment the idea was born to the final mixing and mastering stages -> and would be a shame to let this incredible and beautiful melodic concept be forgotten.

Please let me know if you share the same appreciation for this track before the abyss of darkens consume it




It is just me or there is something in it to make you listen over and over again !!!!


Darek

Someone told me I wasn't comfortable with melodies but I got this nailed down good only thing is that i revealed to much before breakdown without any hints i think. Whats your opinion?

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Originally posted by PaULiN0 Someone...

I don't hear anything really taking the lead in the WIP. Unfortunately there is nothing that stands out on top of the mix to grab the listeners attention. There also is a lot going on. A lot of (quite wet) synths taking the same space that they all get lost in translation...

Try losing all parts and just go for the beats, bassline, midbass and one more synth that sits on top and possibly work around that. Negative space (the interaction between sounds and the empty space in between) works really well in music and I think your productions could benefit from that by taking layers away - creating more space for other parts to shine.

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Originally posted by Storyteller I don't hear anything really taking the lead in the WIP. Unfortunately there is nothing that stands out on top of the mix to grab the listeners attention. There also is a lot going on. A lot of (quite wet) synths taking the same space that they all get lost in translation... Try losing all parts and just go for the beats, bassline, midbass and one more synth that sits on top and possibly work around that. Negative space (the interaction between sounds and the empty space in between) works really well in music and I think your productions could benefit from that by taking layers away - creating more space for other parts to shine.

Yeah, i was thinking hmm i got the melody down but so much is going on, i'm sure the TA's in the forum will help me out and so it happened, thanks man. Will try to give the lead more anticipation and presence.

Just my .02$ and trying to help.

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Originally posted by Storyteller Just my .02$ and trying to help.

Your 100% right. I only finished only (1 got luckily signed) 3 tracks in my life that aren't remixes. There are still things that I'm not entirely clear on so your help is really appreciated. Thanks bro.

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Originally posted by TranceLover007 Let's put this way - I watch the development of this track right from the moment the idea was born to the final mixing and mastering stages -> and would be a shame to let this incredible and beautiful melodic concept be forgotten. Please let me know if you share the same appreciation for this track before the abyss of darkens consume it It is just me or there is something in it to make you listen over and over again !!!! Darek

its ok but im not sure i would have it on repeat

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Originally posted by PaULiN0 Someone told me I wasn't comfortable with melodies but I got this nailed down good only thing is that i revealed to much before breakdown without any hints i think. Whats your opinion?

dont like that kick and theres just no groove at all as the low end is too muddy

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Originally posted by evo8 dont like that kick and theres just no groove at all as the low end is too muddy

Oh thats not helpful at all I dont want to get nippy but from my perspective I dont judge techno kicks from a uplifting point of view. This is kick is more futuristic for the uplifting genre and remember you haven't heard modern stuff in awhile.. I'll clean up the midrange and see what happens, thanks anyway.

Also what you mean by groove the kick and bass are very bouncy.

How about now Storyteller?



Your plan worked and I learned some thing new, thanks man.

I do not like the notes your hitting but yes, this is a major improvement compared to the previous version. You have a sound coming in near the end which is distinguishable and could be seen as a lead for the track. Nice . Now time to make that melody stick in our heads

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Originally posted by PaULiN0 Oh thats not helpful at all I dont want to get nippy but from my perspective I dont judge techno kicks from a uplifting point of view. This is kick is more futuristic for the uplifting genre and remember you haven't heard modern stuff in awhile.. I'll clean up the midrange and see what happens, thanks anyway. Also what you mean by groove the kick and bass are very bouncy. How about now Storyteller? Your plan worked and I learned some thing new, thanks man.

Im judging the kick as part of this track and imo it doesnt really fit - and sorry to say the low end sounds awful

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Originally posted by Storyteller I do not like the notes your hitting but yes, this is a major improvement compared to the previous version. You have a sound coming in near the end which is distinguishable and could be seen as a lead for the track. Nice . Now time to make that melody stick in our heads

Hmm thanks for your help, I'll remember the day storyteller told me about melodies for a long time, appreciate it.

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Originally posted by evo8 its ok but im not sure i would have it on repeat

Thanks Paul for your personal reflection on this production - I guess is just me who this track is touching on deep subconscious level - I guess I'm getting old

Darek

its late so il make this quick

i hope i got the damn balence right this time



il give my feedback when im awake and i have a few pages to go back

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Originally posted by TranceLover007 After all those years and hard work Jesse - finally everything start to paying off - preatty sweet work man Darek

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Originally posted by Richard Butler Fukin really good track, this is the best from you in a long time. Deep, dark, menacing yet eminently danceable.

thanks so much guys! LA is treating me SO WELL. Already found a great job, getting my own place in the next few weeks, totally riding the wave.

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Originally posted by Oakenshield its late so il make this quick i hope i got the damn balence right this time il give my feedback when im awake and i have a few pages to go back

Mixdown is good...All your bassdrums are also good because they have nice thump to it. The pads at 2:40 needs changing imo, it feels like it doesn't blend well with the intro imo, but its still good. I'm trying to be picky as possible here lol and i can't find anyting else i dont like, so good job.

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Originally posted by Evolve140

now thats cool i love how dark it is and the way its mix i can never seem to get my stuff glued like that!

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Originally posted by Oakenshield now thats cool i love how dark it is and the way its mix i can never seem to get my stuff glued like that!

thanks, glad you like it.

well i've been doing this for a little over 10 years now

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Originally posted by PaULiN0 Hmm thanks for your help, I'll remember the day storyteller told me about melodies for a long time, appreciate it.

I've been mentioning this to you for a long time. So far you are making film scores with a kick, not really danceable and there is no melodic hook.

Not saying there is anything wrong with your style but I get the feeling you are wanting to make eDm.

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Originally posted by Oakenshield its late so il make this quick i hope i got the damn balence right this time il give my feedback when im awake and i have a few pages to go back

It sounds kinda old school and very dry. For example the main lead is quite squeaky and basic. Try and make your sounds a lot better and more personalised.

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