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Okay, those four are in a MrMystery folder in my mediafire account:

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/du...389g9/MrMystery

The one you can't remember, Mr. Mystery - Personal Classics, is the one you put together back in October 2009 for Jack's thread "TAs share their classics." Good stuff.

Your TL and description of tracks:

Mr Mystery

01. Pink Floyd - Echoes
What's there to say about Floyd that hasn't already been said? Being the godfathers of prog, they introduced me to the wonderful world of 20 minute tracks as well.

02. BT - Firewater
Hands down my favourite BT track, although unfortunately rather poorly mastered (in case you were thinking I was causing those distorted peaks).

03. Jean-Michel Jarre - Millions Of Stars
Generally, I'm not that into Jarre (shock!) but this track just strikes a chord for me. Hauntingly beautiful.

04. Oasis - Champagne Supernova
Hearing this for the first time as a pre-teen has to have been one of the most intense musical experiences of my life.

05. Apollo 440 - The Machine In The Ghost
I never did figure @440 out - sometimes they produce some utter toss and in the next minute something absolutely beautiful like this.

06. Sasha - Baja
In my opinion the weakest track on the Xpander EP was Xpander itself - I could had placed any of the other 3 here but this one seemed to fit best.

07. Orbital - Style
I could had easily just slapped the entire 'The Middle Of Nowhere'-album to this mix but in order to keep it under 80 minutes I had to narrow it down to just one... I don't think I've listened to any EDM album as much as that one.

08. Yello - On Track
Yello were way ahead of their time when they did the 'Pocket Universe'-album. This is one of the reasons I ever got into EDM. Thanks for playing this to me, dad.

09. The Crystal Method - Keep Hope Alive
Again, just about any track from the 'Vegas'-album would had made the cut, but this is the one that really got me into producing breaks/big beat.

10. The Chemical Brothers - The Private Psychedelic Reel
I'm not even sure I have words for this. Perfection defined.

11. Junkie XL - Billy Club
The intensity of early Junkie XL tracks/live shows even impressed The Prodigy. Too bad he went on to become what he is now...

12. The Prodigy - Climbatize
Speaking of The Prodigy... is that not the best bassline ever?

13. Hybrid - Finished Symphony
These type of tracks only come by once every blue moon... absolutely beautiful. I don't know what it is about mixing traditional instruments with electronic music but it just works for me almost every time.

No, I meant the last one I quoted, the TA radio one

Got a few tunes to play out for the genre comp, most of them will be pretty well-known unfortunately but I think they represent my own personal take on 'hard trance' well. Including a hard trance remix of my favorite trance track ever Now I gotta do a trial run and play around with the order some...

How's everyone doing?

I still have some tracks to find but I have a general idea on how the mix will turn out and I will try to have it done by next week

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Originally posted by ziptnf How's everyone doing?

I've got pretty much all of my tunes picked out, just waiting for my payday to purchase them. Then I just need to finish off this one... thing... and I'll be done. I'll most likely be doing it in about a week and a half.

That's about my situation, although I already have my tracks purchased and ordered. I'm out of town this weekend so next weekend will have to do.

10 days of mentally preparation: done.
10 days of picking songs: starting
10 days of mixing: soon...

I've certainly had some difficulties with this and I'm still scratching my head about it on a daily basis. Really not sure how to proceed, that said I've started mixing anyway and got about half an hour of material done so far. I'm mainly just taking my time pondering about the direction but I could have it done fairly quickly if necessary. We'll see.

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Originally posted by ziptnf How's everyone doing?

believe it or not, another death in my family. this time not a human but still very impacting and has consumed the past few days. life not giving me any breaks.

haven't really started at all. been researching what is generally acceptable as 'industrial' music so i dont piss a bunch of people off. not too confident i will get this done by the oct 3 date but we'll see.

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Originally posted by Bierheld I've certainly had some difficulties with this and I'm still scratching my head about it on a daily basis. Really not sure how to proceed, that said I've started mixing anyway and got about half an hour of material done so far. I'm mainly just taking my time pondering about the direction but I could have it done fairly quickly if necessary. We'll see.

garage is a huge genre with a million and a half sub genres. i have a lot of garage music but its really biased towards a couple specific styles. i'm sure you'll do fine. if you need any suggestions for future garage type music let me know

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Originally posted by jonmitz garage is a huge genre with a million and a half sub genres. i have a lot of garage music but its really biased towards a couple specific styles. i'm sure you'll do fine. if you need any suggestions for future garage type music let me know

I'll elaborate on this further once the whole thing is done, but the problem is more that I've pigeon-holed myself into working in the genre's genesis and it's too late to change course now as I'm already too invested into it.

It'll get done, but I'm going to refuse any outside help as I'm curious as to how the end result will be interpreted. It'll give me a lot of insight into how genres really work.

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Originally posted by jonmitz haven't really started at all. been researching what is generally acceptable as 'industrial' music so i dont piss a bunch of people off. not too confident i will get this done by the oct 3 date but we'll see.

If you need some more pointers, Adam X's L.I.E.S. podcast shows off the kind of music I had in mind brilliantly, and across various sub genres of "industrial", too.

I'm pretty much set for my entry, but all the drums in the music I'm playing are played by humans, so I'm having trouble mixing it without turning the transitions into a complete cacophony of percussion and hats. I'll get it done, but it won't be until shortly before the deadline, as I have a lot of stuff going on in my life otherwise.

Jon, I'm sorry to hear about your loss. I'm assuming it was a pet? Your dog perhaps? Those are always rough to deal with and I hope it rests in peace.

Guys, don't worry about the deadline. I can put in extensions if needed and push it back as far as it needs to go. I just don't want to stop hearing from someone if they are late on their challenge. Don't blow me off if I'm asking your status and remember the consequences of dropping out. Just do your mix before the end of October.

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Originally posted by Sand Leaper If you need some more pointers, Adam X's L.I.E.S. podcast shows off the kind of music I had in mind brilliantly, and across various sub genres of "industrial", too. I'm pretty much set for my entry, but all the drums in the music I'm playing are played by humans, so I'm having trouble mixing it without turning the transitions into a complete cacophony of percussion and hats. I'll get it done, but it won't be until shortly before the deadline, as I have a lot of stuff going on in my life otherwise.

Thanks, I should have just asked. I'll check that out!

e: this is just about what I was originally expecting industrial/electronic to be, but when I was reading into it I was just getting a bunch of other stuff I didn't really like at all and was getting a bit worried.

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Originally posted by lievez 10 days of mentally preparation: done. 10 days of picking songs: starting 10 days of mixing: soon...

mentally preparation: done.
picking songs: done.
mixing: busy!


Had some free time yesterday, spend couple of hours looking for good song and immediately started mixing.


Mix should be ready somewhere next week

Ok, I'm done I think. For explanations and background info I'd refer you to the boring ramble down below. If you don't care then here's the mix and TL:

Cloudcasts by bierheld on Mixcloud

Part of your gripe is what makes this challenge so interesting, the interpretation/research/programming, but if your experience wasn't good because the genre didn't interest you, or the concept of researching new genres isn't your cup of tea then that's fine. The problem is that your entire post is soooo damned self-loathing! Nothing is set in stone here as to how you interpret the genre you are assigned, it's all up to you and you need to have a little more confidence in what you posted!

Let me ask you this: if you had to re-do this challenge, would you rather do something like progressive house, or would you have rather chosen a different genre in the listed suggestions?

Also, I'll get to listening to this sometime this week.

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Originally posted by ziptnf Part of your gripe is what makes this challenge so interesting, the interpretation/research/programming, but if your experience wasn't good because the genre didn't interest you, or the concept of researching new genres isn't your cup of tea then that's fine. The problem is that your entire post is soooo damned self-loathing! Nothing is set in stone here as to how you interpret the genre you are assigned, it's all up to you and you need to have a little more confidence in what you posted!

I'm not as down on it as it may seem, didn't really mean for it to come across like that. that's just my personality at work, always needlessly reflective and restrained.
It's just some thoughts I had about the process I wanted to share, this is still the first time I participated in the challenge and I'm not very clear on what's expected out of me. You can say that doesn't matter much but people's motivations have been thoroughly put to question multiple times now in this thread and that's before the challenge had even begun.

I decided to just go with what felt right to me this challenge, and as such felt the need to explain myself because of it. I don't think I could have done much better with this other then a complete change of direction. There's a reason I don't really do dance music any more when it comes to mixing, even though I love the music as much as any other kind.
It's just a bit of a creative sink-hole for me, I feel it stands on spontaneity and ad rem mixing skill rather then endlessly working on refined mixing structures. That's why I ended up doing it all in one go when I was in the mood for it and getting an early submit because of that.
Again I don't think this is a terrible mix, Other then it kind of running out of ideas at the end I found it decently enjoyable.

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Let me ask you this: if you had to re-do this challenge, would you rather do something like progressive house, or would you have rather chosen a different genre in the listed suggestions? Also, I'll get to listening to this sometime this week.

There could have been better picks for me, sure, but I wasn't expecting to win the lottery here the first time around. I don't dislike the notion that there needs to be an element of gameplay here and I do like a good gamble every now and then.

I just don't think it's for me, and that's always going to limit the amount of motivation I have for this. I don't like being restrained in terms of track choice but at the same time I don't want to invest too much time in the crate digging phase either. That's why I like a bit of freedom in terms of genre boundaries.
If I'd have rolled industrial or something then I wouldn't have had this problem, but then again the entire challenge factor would have disappeared completely.

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Originally posted by Bierheld I'm not very clear on what's expected out of me.

You are expected to deliver a mix within the genre and time limit given, and hopefully even having a bit of fun while doing so. Nothing more.

^Well we should be fine then. Whether or not it's within the right genre remains to be seen, but I can certainly have some more fun in my life now that I'm done with it

I'm also looking forward to hearing the other entries of course.

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Originally posted by Bierheld Nitro Deluxe – Let’s Get Brutal (Aldo Martin Remix) [Cutting Records, 1987] Floppy Sounds – Ultrasong [Wave Music, 1994] Francois K – Mindspeak [Wave Music, 1996] Floppy Sounds – Ultrasong (Studio A mix) [Wave Music, 1995] Armand Van Helden, The Banana Spiffs – Crusty The Cavemen (Land Of The Lost Mix) [Cutting Records, 1994] The Daou - Give Myself To You feat. Vanessa Daou (Buzzard Dub) [TRIBAL, 1994] Kim English - Nite Life (Sound Factory Version) [Nervous Records, 1994] George Morel - Let's Groove (Original Mix) [Strictly Rhythm, 1992] CL McSpadden - I Can't Stop Going (Original Mix) [Maxi Records, 1992] Winx - Up BW Feeling Good (Nervous Mix) [Nervous Records, 1992] Floppy Sounds - Actual Footage (Original Mix) [Wave Music, 1995] DL: https://www.sendspace.com/file/pjzwgs

I really liked the first half (esp the first few songs, I'll probably be grabbing most of them) and the second half not so much. I don't know much (read: anything) about garage music in the 90's so I can't really comment on how well or not you hit the genre, the first half seems pretty on point w/ garage and then it just gets a bit housey and I'm not so sure due to lack of knowledge. Someone else probably can judge how well you hit the genre more than me.

In any case I enjoyed it.

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Originally posted by Bierheld I'm not as down on it as it may seem, didn't really mean for it to come across like that. that's just my personality at work, always needlessly reflective and restrained. It's just some thoughts I had about the process I wanted to share, this is still the first time I participated in the challenge and I'm not very clear on what's expected out of me. You can say that doesn't matter much but people's motivations have been thoroughly put to question multiple times now in this thread and that's before the challenge had even begun. I decided to just go with what felt right to me this challenge, and as such felt the need to explain myself because of it. I don't think I could have done much better with this other then a complete change of direction. There's a reason I don't really do dance music any more when it comes to mixing, even though I love the music as much as any other kind. It's just a bit of a creative sink-hole for me, I feel it stands on spontaneity and ad rem mixing skill rather then endlessly working on refined mixing structures. That's why I ended up doing it all in one go when I was in the mood for it and getting an early submit because of that. Again I don't think this is a terrible mix, Other then it kind of running out of ideas at the end I found it decently enjoyable. There could have been better picks for me, sure, but I wasn't expecting to win the lottery here the first time around. I don't dislike the notion that there needs to be an element of gameplay here and I do like a good gamble every now and then. I just don't think it's for me, and that's always going to limit the amount of motivation I have for this. I don't like being restrained in terms of track choice but at the same time I don't want to invest too much time in the crate digging phase either. That's why I like a bit of freedom in terms of genre boundaries. If I'd have rolled industrial or something then I wouldn't have had this problem, but then again the entire challenge factor would have disappeared completely.

haha your mix was better than a lot of shit people regularly post on dj promo.

I don't really know anything about 90s house, but the mix bierheld did was good. It did feel like there was a clear change in style halfway through the mix though. It's too bad you didn't get a genre that appealed to you more. I've gotta say though, as a listener these challenges are really nice. It's nice hearing djs take on a new style that might not be mixed here much at all, or alternatively it's just nice seeing the combo between that person's mixing style and that style of music.

I'd be interested in hearing you do some dance mixes. I reckon if you had more flexibility with choice of tracks and a more flexible timeline you could've made a really good mix. As it stands this one's alright and a worthy listen.

Thanks guys, yeah the first half is definitely the one I found more interesting too, but it was so far removed from all the other music I found while researching that I wan't comfortable with continuing in that direction if I even could have without sticking with a mix that's almost entirely centred around one label.
I figured I'd just choose a few sounds and gradually work my way through them to keep a bit of that genre heritage and ambiguity theme. Again I wanted to go further along that route but didn't succeed for this reason.

It's definitely a consequence of being restrained, but I can't really use that as an excuse because technically I was free to go in whatever direction I wanted and there's definitely garage flavours out there that are more prolific on beatport.

Here is mine...
http://www.mixcloud.com/lvz/lievez-...-i-suppose-mix/

Playlist:

Carbon Based Lifeforms - Terpene
Asura - An Talamh
CJ Catalizer - 2012
Shpongle - Brain in a Fishtank
Ephemeral Mists - Namas
Ott - Squirrel and Biscuits
Zymosis - Path of Nocturnal



How I worked:
- Googled 'Psychill' (read)
- Googled 'Psychill artists' (watched)
- Googled 'Psychill artist song' (listened)
- Collected a few good songs which I thought fitted the description of Psychill (acted)
- Try to make a smooth mix (mixed)

The 'read - watched - listened - acted - mixed' - way !


Since there are a lot of dreamy sounds, stretching strings and blurry beats, the best thing I could come up with was trying to mix everything melodic. Blending sounds and strings...

I kept it short because I felt I couldn't do anything more or anything special to make it sound extra special for people who are not familiar (like me) with this genre.

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