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its not hard at all once you get the bpms in order.

My rig . . .







2x Technics 1200MK2B
2x Road Ready ATA cases
2x Shure M44-7s
Vestax PCV-275
Sony MDR-V700

RANE Serato Scratch Live v1.1.3
VAIO laptop optimized for SSL
Dell tower for recording and ripping purposes

Carver pm420 power amplifier 210watts x 2
2x Carvin PAs

. . . and loving it . . .

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That's a nice setup you have there. I say that because I have the exact same equipment. I have the Technics MK2's in black, the PCV-275 mixer, and the same Road Ready turntable cases. However, I have the Whitelabel carts, the MDR-V7506 headphones, a Road Ready mixer case, and the Alesis active monitors which are different than what you have. Damn the Technics look sexy in black, don't they? Especially next to the gold Vestax mixer. Haha, good stuff. Hope you enjoy your setup as much as I enjoy mine.

Nice poster BTW.

yeah, that's a sweet setup! i got the same as well, cept silver M3Ds, and just a basic stereo system no PA yet, that would piss my neighbours off too much.

I'm plannin on getting SSL too, how do you like it? on second thought PM me or something, no need cluttering up this board with talking instead of pics of setups.

here's a really bad shot of my setup for right now:

Well, I just purchased the Technics SL-DZ1200's today to add to my setup. I have played around with them and have been really happy. They will be setup side by side with my Technics M3D's (not pictured here).

Pioneer DJM-600
2 Technics SL-1200M3D's
2 Technics SL-DZ1200's

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Originally posted by Audigy7 Nice poster BTW.

Yes indeed, nice poster.

My gf was looking over my shoulder, and asked, "Uh.. what's that?!?? What are you looking at?!!!"

Me: "The decks, I'm looking at the decks!!!"



(It actually has more truth than not... lol. I actually *was* more interested in his setup than that poster... but it is quite a nice poster. )

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Originally posted by Dirk W.

I have no idea on what the performance is like on those new Technics, but I have to say whoever did the industrial design on them deserves major kudos... those chrome decks look so damn cool. KILLER... absolutely KILLER.

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Originally posted by starlabs I have no idea on what the performance is like on those new Technics, but I have to say whoever did the industrial design on them deserves major kudos... those chrome decks look so damn cool. KILLER... absolutely KILLER.

Thanks, I have really been impressed with them after only using them for about 2 hours. The scratching is a bit digital with mp3s, but not so much regular cds (I don't scratch anyways). The pitch is very loose, but once you get used to it, it works out fine for long beatmatches. I'm really excited to be using these on top of my old tables now....

Just a quick question, how much were those dz1200's?

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Originally posted by starlabs I have no idea on what the performance is like on those new Technics, but I have to say whoever did the industrial design on them deserves major kudos... those chrome decks look so damn cool. KILLER... absolutely KILLER.

I do. They suck ass. Technics has no experience whatsoever in building CD players, which is what this product proves. If you want a REAL vinyl cd player, get a CDX. Those things are REALLY amazing.

I played with a lot of CD players... I test products. So far, here's my liking of professional CD players in the upper money range (in order):

1. Pioneer CDJ-1000MKII
2. Numark CDX
3. Denon DN-S5000
4. Technics SL-DZ1200

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Originally posted by DJ FireWire I played with a lot of CD players... I test products. So far, here's my liking of professional CD players in the upper money range (in order): 1. Pioneer CDJ-1000MKII 2. Numark CDX 3. Denon DN-S5000 4. Technics SL-DZ1200

I'm surprised you rate the cdx so high. I assume you mix alot seeing as you're on this site, and when you tested the numark cdx im sure you realized that it can only be as accurate as 0.1. This is horrible when you consider that all of the other high end decks (and even a step down, like the dns3000) have 0.02.

Now before anybody gets annoyed, and accuses me of being a poor dj because i cannot mix with 0.1% I want to clear up that anybody can mix with 0.1, but its just not fun. For example if you were spinning techno on 4 players with 0.1, it would be horrid. As with 0.02, you can just set it, and forget it.

I am assuming he rated it that high for the MANY other features that eh CDX has.... however you do have a point regarding the pitch... I thought they were pretty sweet CD players, however WAY to big for my taste... I would prefer one of the Denon's, or CDJ 800's... maybe 1000MK2's... I haven't seen enough on the Technics so really know whether I would like them... and there isn;t a store in town that has them on demo yet, so I can't even go look at them...


*dial up internet = limited research time*

I dont want to make the cdx sound that bad. I think the cdx is an amazing player, because it pretty much delivers what turntabilists have been wanting for a couple of years. But as far as mixing is concerned, its hardly an option. It would sort of be like buying a giant cdj100.

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Originally posted by DjVash I do. They suck ass. Technics has no experience whatsoever in building CD players, which is what this product proves. If you want a REAL vinyl cd player, get a CDX. Those things are REALLY amazing.

Actually, I think you would be surprised at how well built they are and how well they handle. Most people that knock them have only seen them in a video or played on one at a music store. The fact is, with a 0.05% pitch adjustment it hangs out quite well with the Pioneer's 0.02% (which is at +/- 6%, vs technics +/- 8%). It is more than sufficient for beatmatching and long mixes. At any rate, for vinyl diehards like me, the Technics was the best route to take in order to make a comfortable transition to using CDs. Pioneers in my opinion are the front runner for a high quality, fine tuned CD player that doesn't cater to a vinyl-only type of audience.

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Originally posted by beats and beeps I dont want to make the cdx sound that bad. I think the cdx is an amazing player, because it pretty much delivers what turntabilists have been wanting for a couple of years. But as far as mixing is concerned, its hardly an option. It would sort of be like buying a giant cdj100.

Sorry dude but that's totally bullshit. I told you this deck has perfect vinyl emulation. If you say this player is not for mixing, you're practically saying vinyl isn't for mixing. This thing has the size of a turntable, so does it matter? If you're saying it's too big and I don't have that much space, then you're making sense. There are cheaper alternatives too you know, but this is definetly the one that perfectly feels like vinyl.

Take a look at DJ Firewire, apparantly this person knows what he uses.

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Actually, I think you would be surprised at how well built they are and how well they handle. Most people that knock them have only seen them in a video or played on one at a music store. The fact is, with a 0.05% pitch adjustment it hangs out quite well with the Pioneer's 0.02% (which is at +/- 6%, vs technics +/- 8%). It is more than sufficient for beatmatching and long mixes. At any rate, for vinyl diehards like me, the Technics was the best route to take in order to make a comfortable transition to using CDs. Pioneers in my opinion are the front runner for a high quality, fine tuned CD player that doesn't cater to a vinyl-only type of audience.

For vinyl die-hards like you? You obviously haven't tried the CDX. One thing straigt: The Technics was built for perfect vinyl emulation. They did NOT succeed, e.g. the slipmat used sucks ass. If you want REAL vinyl emulation, try the CDX. If you haven't and you think that the Technics kicks ass, you should slap yourself in the face and head to your dealer to try the CDX :P.

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Originally posted by Audigy7 Nice poster BTW.

Haha thanks, its my "inspiration" sometimes . . .

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Originally posted by DjVash Sorry dude but that's totally bullshit. I told you this deck has perfect vinyl emulation. If you say this player is not for mixing, you're practically saying vinyl isn't for mixing. This thing has the size of a turntable, so does it matter? If you're saying it's too big and I don't have that much space, then you're making sense. There are cheaper alternatives too you know, but this is definetly the one that perfectly feels like vinyl. Take a look at DJ Firewire, apparantly this person knows what he uses. For vinyl die-hards like you? You obviously haven't tried the CDX. One thing straigt: The Technics was built for perfect vinyl emulation. They did NOT succeed, e.g. the slipmat used sucks ass. If you want REAL vinyl emulation, try the CDX. If you haven't and you think that the Technics kicks ass, you should slap yourself in the face and head to your dealer to try the CDX :P.

This is why the cdx is not for mixing, as i have already stated it can only be as accurate as 0.1. This means even if you get them as accuratly beatmatched as possible you will still have to baby them with pitch bends. Sure, this doesnt matter if youre pulling off intro outro mixes, i guess, but try mixing techno on four decks, and tell me how effective it would be with 0.1 accuracy. After about 13 seconds they will go out of sync and youll have to bend them...constantly pampering 4 decks, or 3, or even 2 would leave little time for anything else.

Feel free to prove me wrong though, sounds like you own a store or something, so if you have such confidence in these decks set up quads of these and mix like liebing.

I did not say vinyl is not for mixing, so dont tell me im saying that. Vinyl is analog, its accuracy is only limited by what the smallest movement you can make with the slide is. I've heard different points of view on this, some say its close to 0.02, others say its more like 0.05. I think its somewhere in the middle. It doesnt matter though, the point is its NOT 0.1.

I run the gearsection in a store, that's right.

And when it comes to 0,1 accuracy, you can mix with that. I agree when you say it's a shame it's not more (e.g. my CJD-800's are 0.05%, which is excellent) but I disagree when you say it's not for mixing. My old PT-2400's (very good decks though) go to 0.1% as well, and in the worst case scenario it falls out of sync in 45 seconds (which is more then enough to finish the mix).

So it might be a pain in the ass mixing with them on 4 decks, sure. But for those "vinyl addicts" that want a CD player for vinyls that are not (yet) released or sold out, this is definetly -the- solution.

I understand what youre saying. And just for fun heres a nice little thing that i got off of another forum (i forget which) Its by someone who uses the name "deft" so credit to him.

http://www.deft.dsl.pipex.com/Pitch.htm

Ofcourse you get that effect if you have 0,1% miss. However, with a pitch that is up to 0,1% accurate, you can miss up to 0,05%! (because if you need to pitch a record up to 0,07%, your miss is only 0,03% and NOT 0,07%!). And with a 0,05% miss, you can mix as long like 45 seconds, which is more then enough.

I hope this is clear, it's hard for me to explain in English.

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Originally posted by DjVash and in the worst case scenario it falls out of sync in 45 seconds (which is more then enough to finish the mix).

um, wrong. Thats like the BEST case scenario. This is one thing I am very passionate about...I am so baffled as to why all these big companies are putting out all these expensive cd players with all these useless features and they end up leaving out the most important one. I have a Pioneer CDJ1000 MK2, and that is one of the reasons why I love it....but if American Audio came out with a cd player tomorrow that had a .02% pitch increment, I would have one in a second as a 4th cd deck. Pitch accuracy is by far the most important quality on a cd deck.

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Originally posted by zizack Pitch accuracy is by far the most important quality on a cd deck.

I agree completely

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Originally posted by zizack um, wrong. Thats like the BEST case scenario. This is one thing I am very passionate about...I am so baffled as to why all these big companies are putting out all these expensive cd players with all these useless features and they end up leaving out the most important one. I have a Pioneer CDJ1000 MK2, and that is one of the reasons why I love it....but if American Audio came out with a cd player tomorrow that had a .02% pitch increment, I would have one in a second as a 4th cd deck. Pitch accuracy is by far the most important quality on a cd deck.

About the first part: If that's what you think... my best case scenario is when it drives in sync all the way down

However it's bullshit when you say pitch accuracy is the most important thing. I'd rather have a quality laser that passes the focus cd test fine. If a CD player won't swallow your cd's anymore, I really wouldn't give a shit about pitch accuracy . Then comes the necessary feautures (such as instant start, loops)... OK, the loops aren't really important, but you'd be suprised how many shit CD players don't have instant start. Then comes antishock, and THEN I'd start worrying about pitch accuracy

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