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Posted by Richard Butler on Mar-09-2014 22:05:

Here's a pretty much completed track, any thoughts before I finish with this one?



Posted by aquila on Mar-09-2014 23:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
Here's a pretty much completed track, any thoughts before I finish with this one?




Maybe at the break around 30s don't bring the bassline back in until the beat returns. Turn it into a drop of sorts. It's a nit-pick, but it's all I could think of.


Posted by TranceElevation on Mar-09-2014 23:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
Here's a pretty much completed track, any thoughts before I finish with this one?




Excellent work Richard. The contrast at 1:45 is something very effective you don't hear often even in the 'so called' professional tracks. I am impressed, for the simple fact that this is one of the few tracks I had the patience to listen it all.

Low end is ok.

The only thing imo could be improved is the use of reverb. But it may be just personal preference. Anyway I could specify if you wish.


Posted by chris marsh on Mar-10-2014 00:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Domesty
I really get what u mean. I got rid most of the saws, left just lil high end, and went with more plucky sound.

My question is does it pack any punch whatsoever?

I cant really tell

Won't post this again until if i get it done.



i like it!

agree lead could be a bit less harsh. Any high hats that you have are being completely overpowered by the lead atm. The hats are normally the very "top" of a tune,along with h tops of the synths of course

i think the bass is sounding pretty tight. Overall yes its quite punchy imo, but reference it against a modern uplifting track and im sure you will find there is much work to do

i personally find the synths a bit to dry, i know modern trance can be a bit drier but i think more reverb (long tail) would sound good, and maybe an extra layer of subtle complexity or texture

overall i like really nice defo finish it





nice and wide mix


Posted by MSZ on Mar-10-2014 00:13:

Nice ideas in there Richard, like that.


Posted by chris marsh on Mar-10-2014 00:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
Here's a pretty much completed track, any thoughts before I finish with this one?





i like the kick and bass straight away. very nice and gritty. Are you mixing into a limiter??

Im enjoying the beats

this is growing on me more every time i listen. i think it could do with more sub in-between the kicks

agree it could do with more reverb/atmosphere

i kind of feel like this tune cant decide if it wants to be a banging techno tune or a kind of melancholic, deep chill out tho. I find the melancolic bits the most convincing as the kick and bass isnt quite subby, powerful enough imo to be full on banger


in my humble opinion of course


Posted by chris marsh on Mar-10-2014 00:37:

ive posted this up before, but done a final mix down and added some other instruments. Going to send out soon so any thoughts (especially mix wise) really appreciated

Ta



Posted by TranceElevation on Mar-10-2014 01:39:

quote:
Originally posted by chris marsh
agree it could do with more reverb/atmosphere


Who are you agreeing with? Cause nowhere mentioned "more" or "less" or anything in between.


Posted by chris marsh on Mar-10-2014 01:41:

Ok I assumed you meant a bit more reverb. My bad. What did you mean then?


Posted by TranceElevation on Mar-10-2014 01:43:

quote:
Originally posted by chris marsh
Ok I assumed you meant a bit more reverb. My bad. What did you mean then?


The characteristic of the reverb/S itself.


Posted by SystematicX1 on Mar-10-2014 03:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
Here's a pretty much completed track, any thoughts before I finish with this one?




Dood, Richard...quite a little changeup for you eh? Nice work on this one. In some ways I agree with Chris on this, it seems to be a bit unsure of direction. On the other hand, it seems to fit. I would be curious to see if some kind of white noise or atmosphere in between those transitions could bind it together better. Just my two cents.
Dig the vibe!


Posted by Seandroid on Mar-10-2014 10:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Domesty
I really get what u mean. I got rid most of the saws, left just lil high end, and went with more plucky sound.

My question is does it pack any punch whatsoever?

I cant really tell

Won't post this again until if i get it done.



This is adorable but it's really hard to follow haha. Maybe if I listened to it a bunch of times I'd get used to it, but I think it's missing a real... riff, you know? The others have already commented on sound design so I'll leave that be.

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
Here's a pretty much completed track, any thoughts before I finish with this one?




The lead that's about a minute in a feel sounds kind of cheap when the filter is open. I love the messy distorted kick. It has personality. The main drop is sick, but I don't know how I feel about the chords peeking in and out like they do. I dig the contrast between the break and the drop though. I don't think the track has an identity crisis as much as the 2 parts should remain separate.

At 4:10 I'd really advice not using the loop you did there because of this:



IDK if Chris Lake just used a loop or if you sampled the track but it's exactly the same, and that track is pretty popular. (And great.)

Otherwise, I dig it 😄


I started a new drumstep track. I know that generally doesn't fly here but what the hell. I figured I'd post it anyway.


Posted by Richard Butler on Mar-10-2014 12:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Seandroid




I started a new drumstep track. I know that generally doesn't fly here but what the hell. I figured I'd post it anyway.





Really cool work there Sean, enjoy this sort of thing more and more now and I appreciate the skills involved. No crits.


Thanks for the feedback on mine - no I did not use any loops apart from one little hi hat that appears here n there. That Chris Lake track does sound similar though, not heard it before. I agree about those echoed chords popping up in the drop, I wasn't sure if they fitted really so will give it some thought.

I wasn't sure which lead you meant sounds cheap - presumably the first little lead that comes in during the intro?


Posted by Richard Butler on Mar-10-2014 12:56:

quote:
Originally posted by chris marsh


Ta





Real good job mate, I can't really comment on the mix as I'm no expert but it sounds damn good here at work on shitty speakers. Hope it gets picked up, I'm sure it will.


BTW, thanks to you and you other guys that gave me feedback on comments which I will be taking back into the studio for final tweaks on my latest. I think I will keep with it's slightly split personality but will review the bass end of things and other points mentioned.


Posted by SystematicX1 on Mar-10-2014 14:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Seandroid
I started a new drumstep track. I know that generally doesn't fly here but what the hell. I figured I'd post it anyway.



Sean...dood, diggin this man! I know this is supposed to be a "trance" forum but I say what the hell...Electronic is Electronic.
Kinda got that Glitch Mob thing going on...really like the groove.
At the beginning of the track it seems kinda lackluster but then fills in nicely with alot of intensity before the drop and then boom! It kinda builds you up and you want more intensity! Lots of potential with this one man...nice work!


Posted by Seandroid on Mar-11-2014 17:34:

Thanks guys! There are a few things I want to change but I'm happy with it so far! I think I'm going to switch to a more aggressive style for the 2nd half of the drop after what you hear in this preview. And I'm going to add some fills & stuff to break the repetition.


Posted by MSZ on Mar-11-2014 19:21:

I like that Sean, if I were to nitpick, maybe the mids could be more saturated in the first part, but not distorted in any way. and the 2nd part im not getting any good bass response, I know its there its just the balance seems off. like some of the parts over the sub are being phased or sucked out at some parts (1:14). You might have to resample if you're synthesizing but I dunno I guess its fine, tough to call.


Posted by Seandroid on Mar-11-2014 20:08:

Yeah, I have to mess with the lows I know. I don't have a sub so I have to screw with it a lot so my kick doesn't disappear. Headphones are awful for low end monitoring and my monitors work only to a point.

I threw a sub bass underneath the main bass sounds. That's why it's phasing. I have to high pass the synths. Thanks for pointing that out.


Posted by Richard Butler on Mar-11-2014 20:36:

Anyways, so this DnB called English Boys (lolli love - ditched that name) I posted here recently has now morphed into some sorta DnB meets Florida hip hop, mmm, dunno is it just too hard too follow / too weird?



Posted by Domesty on Mar-13-2014 16:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Seandroid
I started a new drumstep track. I know that generally doesn't fly here but what the hell. I figured I'd post it anyway.


Great job with this one. I dont usually like the big "bangers" where the crash just bangs on the background but this sounds like it has some energy.

Cant really say anything because listening with my ear buds.

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
Anyways, so this DnB called English Boys (lolli love - ditched that name) I posted here recently has now morphed into some sorta DnB meets Florida hip hop, mmm, dunno is it just too hard too follow / too weird?




Hmm. There is some cool glitching going on, but for composition vise its kinda hard to get a grip on it.

I love this kind of perc beats.


Posted by evo8 on Mar-13-2014 18:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
Here's a pretty much completed track, any thoughts before I finish with this one?




kick isnt doing it for me - everything else is nice, nice to hear a different sound from you


Posted by evo8 on Mar-13-2014 19:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Seandroid
This is adorable but it's really hard to follow haha. Maybe if I listened to it a bunch of times I'd get used to it, but I think it's missing a real... riff, you know? The others have already commented on sound design so I'll leave that be.



The lead that's about a minute in a feel sounds kind of cheap when the filter is open. I love the messy distorted kick. It has personality. The main drop is sick, but I don't know how I feel about the chords peeking in and out like they do. I dig the contrast between the break and the drop though. I don't think the track has an identity crisis as much as the 2 parts should remain separate.

At 4:10 I'd really advice not using the loop you did there because of this:



IDK if Chris Lake just used a loop or if you sampled the track but it's exactly the same, and that track is pretty popular. (And great.)

Otherwise, I dig it 😄


I started a new drumstep track. I know that generally doesn't fly here but what the hell. I figured I'd post it anyway.



really liked it up until the 35 sec mark, not into the whole dubstep thing

if youd kept it in the same style as before the drop i think it would fit in well in a computer game intro or something


Posted by evo8 on Mar-14-2014 13:12:

quote:
Originally posted by chris marsh
ive posted this up before, but done a final mix down and added some other instruments. Going to send out soon so any thoughts (especially mix wise) really appreciated

Ta




hi Chris i think i commented on this one before, as i said not really my cup of tea but the mix sounds nice and balanced here anyway, good luck with it


Posted by chris marsh on Mar-14-2014 13:35:

Thanks rich and evo. Dud quite a few revisions which is why I reposted. Couple more to do still. Thanks.


Posted by Constantin on Mar-16-2014 18:14:

quote:
Originally posted by chris marsh
ive posted this up before, but done a final mix down and added some other instruments. Going to send out soon so any thoughts (especially mix wise) really appreciated

Ta




Howdy! Not a fan of this genre, but your mix sounds spot on, on all my devices .


quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
Anyways, so this DnB called English Boys (lolli love - ditched that name) I posted here recently has now morphed into some sorta DnB meets Florida hip hop, mmm, dunno is it just too hard too follow / too weird?




On my crappy headphones which I use to listen music and stuff most of the time, your tune looks to be a bit to rich in highs which makes my ears a bit fatigue after a while, but hope is just me.


Here is my WIP again, I tried to take in consideration all your feedback and apply it, hope that with success


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