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The deadline isn't really a hard deadline, and I will accept late mixes. Especially in cases as particular as that.

Look, as long as you DO the mix that you are assigned EVENTUALLY, then you won't be permabanned from the competitions Just let us know your status when I put in extensions.

f*ck this, I'm in !
I enjoyed this competition back in the days when I was hooked up with an unkown genre, tried to make the best of it and had fun

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...962#post9749962


new competition style: Rave/Hardcore

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Originally posted by Lews I'm traveling around for the first two weeks of September, then moving from Seattle to London and beginning grad school. September is a rather busy month for me If you extended this through October, I'd definitely be in, but two months is a rather long time, so I understand why you don't do that.

YOU WHORE! Why couldn't you have come to the UK when I did

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Originally posted by ziptnf That's why I implemented the veto mechanic. Get rid of a shit genre (most of the genres submitted already have been pretty solid) and replace with a wildcard. I really don't think there will be anything as bad as Italo disco this time.

Italo Disco is sooooooo easy.

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Originally posted by chris1011 YOU WHORE! Why couldn't you have come to the UK when I did

Well, my study abroad there in 2012 meant I needed to take another year to finish my undergraduate, so I wasn't ready for grad school until now. Why'd you leave now, huh??


I'm in, with the caveat that I'll probably post my mix sometime in October lol. My suggestion is Nu-Jazz / Acid Jazz / Jazz House / etc. I know those are all sort of different, but I don't want to pigeonhole it too much, especially considering I don't know anything about the genre.

Also, Nick, for the record, I also did a nice (in my opinion ) downtempo mix in round 4: http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...75#post10548175

Okay, you're in. Try to get it as close to early October as you can, but as long as you keep me updated on your status, you're good.

And I didn't catch that downtempo mix in Round 4! Updating.

The challenge starts next Monday!

Let's wrap up sign-ups and begin discussing the veto.

Jack, are you in? The pool of genres is significantly better than past competitions. It'll be fun, come on!

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Originally posted by Dykes_on_Jay Italo Disco is sooooooo easy.

I'd have loved to get Italo Disco in a prior competition...

Lews, great suggestion... Acid Jazz/broken beat is a pretty diverse field.

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Originally posted by Lews Well, my study abroad there in 2012 meant I needed to take another year to finish my undergraduate, so I wasn't ready for grad school until now. Why'd you leave now, huh??

They didn't want to hire a Canadian

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Originally posted by ziptnf Jack, are you in? The pool of genres is significantly better than past competitions. It'll be fun, come on!

Sorry, but I think I'll skip this one. I'm moving flat in September which is going to take up a lot of time, not to mention money, and I frankly think I'm just putting out too many mixes at the moment, to the point where people are just going to get bored of seeing my name. I'll still listen in to the submissions though.

Gah! Won't be the same

Alright, last call for signups, let's discuss a veto.

Well, seeing as I already did nu jazz / whatever for a previous challenge, I'd rather not do it a second time.

Industrial is the genre most out of my comfort zone and the one I'm the least musically interested in, so that'll be my pick.

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Originally posted by ziptnf Gah! Won't be the same Alright, last call for signups, let's discuss a veto.

Aww, I was still pondering on what genre to pick. Well whatever. If I could still sneak in I'd take it, but if not I'll understand.

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Originally posted by Sand Leaper Well, seeing as I already did nu jazz / whatever for a previous challenge, I'd rather not do it a second time.

I'm keeping that kind of stuff in mind.

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Originally posted by Bierheld Aww, I was still pondering on what genre to pick. Well whatever. If I could still sneak in I'd take it, but if not I'll understand.

You still have time! Signups are still open. Just hurry up

Okay, figured it would mess up the vetoes or something like that.

How's about some Italian techno then. Various distinct sounds to pick from and it's Ishkur-approved.

And I'll be vetoing hard-trance. Yuck.

How does "italian techno" differ from other kinds of techno?

It sounds different and it's made by Italians? There are other geographically based micro-genres that have been accepted so far, and it should be an easy enough job for this challenge. I could give pointers, but I'm sure it's not that hard to find some italian labels and look at the prevailing techno sounds of any given era. It Should shine trough in the resulting mix whether or not this holds its own as a genre. If nobody's convinced I'll have to think of something else, but I see plenty of directions for a mix like this and that's why I submitted it.

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Originally posted by Bierheld It sounds different and it's made by Italians? I could give pointers

Please do. I fail to see the big difference between a Gaetano Parisio record and any of the Swedish producers he shared the roster with at Drumcode around the turn of the millenium, for example.

I'm not so sure Italian techno is a significant enough genre to be allowed. I'm still not sold on NY Hard House, and I'm not sure I'm sold on this either.

Can we get some more clarifications here? Do these genres have enough content to be acceptable?

Hmm, I've searched around a bit and to be honest I'm indeed having some trouble coming up with a good example as to how exactly it's different from other techno. Then again that wasn't exactly something I considered with this choice in the first place.
I had some quirky minimal and dirty swingy techno in mind from the likes of italo business at around 2008 or these days with midi mood records. There's also stuff from the nineties when it was apparently enough of it's own thing to be mentioned on ishkur's guide, but I don't know too much about that of the top of my head.

Does it matter much for this challenge though? Distinct techno sub-genres from beyond the 00's when the amount of material really started blowing up are hard to define, you'll find parallels everywhere. I just wanted to add a little twist to an otherwise fairly standard submission. If the contestant just makes a standard booming techhouse affair with vaguely Italian themes and artists then I'm fine with that. I'll give it some more thought and see what I do about it tomorrow however because I do understand the critique.

Well, for the hard house sound, Louie DeVito's NYC Underground Party series were some of the biggest selling mix comps back in the day. They have some commercial trance on it but a lot of it was the sound associated with "NY Hard House". This song was one of the most popular examples of the NY hard house sound and was pretty successful over much of the US back in the late 90's. It combined elements of tribal, trance, progressive and big room and usually had diva vocals and/or extended drumroll sequences. Popular with guidos and the gay/circuit scene. It's certainly a more viable genre than Italian Techno IMO.

DJs: Jonathan Peters, Johnny Vicious, Junior Vasquez, Razor N Guido

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Originally posted by Bierheld Hmm, I've searched around a bit and to be honest I'm indeed having some trouble coming up with a good example as to how exactly it's different from other techno.

Then that's difficult for me to support. Genres need to be relatively distinct, this isn't a challenge for specific labels or artists in a particular region. This is about a genre that can stand on its own and doesn't need to be pigeonholed into a handful of artists. I'm nixing this. Pick something else.

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Originally posted by Mr Game+Watch Well, for the hard house sound, Louie DeVito's NYC Underground Party series were some of the biggest selling mix comps back in the day. They have some commercial trance on it but a lot of it was the sound associated with "NY Hard House". This song was one of the most popular examples of the NY hard house sound and was pretty successful over much of the US back in the late 90's. It combined elements of tribal, trance, progressive and big room and usually had diva vocals and/or extended drumroll sequences. Popular with guidos and the gay/circuit scene. It's certainly a more viable genre than Italian Techno IMO. DJs: Jonathan Peters, Johnny Vicious, Junior Vasquez, Razor N Guido

Like I said with Bierheld, we should try to avoid regional genres unless the genre is associated with a much wider and distinct sound. What makes NY Hard House different from regular Hard House, besides the region it was produced in? If we can't assert a clear difference between the two, then we should just stick with Hard House and remove the NY label (bonus points for anyone who goes with the original NY sound though).

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