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Originally posted by Trancelover03591 Looking for feedback before I finish this one:

IDK if it was intentional but it sounds an awful lot like Bromance or Again and Again:

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Originally posted by Seandroid IDK if it was intentional but it sounds an awful lot like Bromance or Again and Again:

Yeah, melodic house is the vibe I'm going for. I want to play the festivals eventually, lol.

Ok...could really use some of your guys advice on this track, I am feeling a little insecure about it and could really use some ears.
A few things first..

Yes, I know..this is a trance board. I do make trance but for some reason I couldnt resist the 115 bpm.
Yes, I also know what it read's..Linkin Park ::hear's shouts from the crowd "are you fucking kidding me?")
Again..for some reason I couldn't resist.
However..this has challenged me. Production of a song challenges me.
So, this is the area I could really use help in.
1: Sonically and dynamically I feel that I may have just pushed the stereo spectrum a bit to much. I dont know. Maybe a phasing issue? Is it me? How does it sound on your monitors?
2: Arrangement. I just cant help that my "anti" drop at the minute mark wont win any awards. I also feel that I am lacking to much in the form of additional vocal even though I have a vocoder going over as backing vocals. I feel this is most prominent after 1:43 leading to the next break. I am stumped at how to fill this out without sounding repetitious,which in some ways I already am I feel and dont want to extend.

In essence...I feel good about the track, just feel that it can be tightened better ...but where is what I having a tough time with.
Thanks ahead of time!

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Originally posted by Trancelover03591 Looking for feedback before I finish this one:

Your'e getting that festival sound, the only things I'd think about is some sort of vocal bit here n there - just nick a vocal from somewhere and completely mangle / alter it if you don't want to sing / cant get a singer, and the piano parts do nothing for me - I cant follow them easily.

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Originally posted by evo8 im not a fan of that chirpy melody darek, sorry......

Me neither Derek, sorry Man, this one is just a bit of a background track, sure it's well mixed though.

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Originally posted by Seandroid Here's what I've got going, I posted an earlier version a while ago but this is approaching full length now.

Sean not as good as others of your IMO, it's ok though. I think the kick is not loud enough compared to some of the stabs and shrills.

Others will like it though so in a way my feedback is useless.

Interesting that you guys don't seem very fond of this. I think it's one of the more interesting and unique things I've done. It's a lot more experimental, I guess.

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Originally posted by scorpradio

It sounds good, but I don't know whats yours and whats the original so I cannot comment too much.

The shuffle hats / snares I hear now and then do not work, the timing is a bit off and they are to much filling the soundscape, keep it a bit cleaner.

Sorts of track I hear playing on FIFA games.

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Originally posted by TranceLover007 Where is your vocal man, it would be really cool track if you have one! Darek

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Originally posted by Richard Butler Your'e getting that festival sound, the only things I'd think about is some sort of vocal bit here n there - just nick a vocal from somewhere and completely mangle / alter it if you don't want to sing / cant get a singer, and the piano parts do nothing for me - I cant follow them easily.

The piano part is supposed to essential take the place of vocals in the breakdown. I have a simple philosophy about vocals; let me make a few singable releases first, then tackle vocals (even sing myself).

I would be okay using a lower quality recording of vocals on a more underground track - sometimes that makes for a cool vibe. But for this type of track, I don't think low quality vocals recordings work as well.

The other thing is that I really like the end when the piano line comes in. I think it fits really well, and it wouldn't really have a context without having already played during the breakdown.

Wohoo, lets rock it!

Updated, New arrangement, added effects and percussion!

Still in the process of adding one more pad and lead, then climax, done.

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Originally posted by Juan Paulino Updated, New arrangement, added effects and percussion! Still in the process of adding one more pad and lead, then climax, done.

so in potential it's a nice track, mix stil a bit dull, but what realy bothers me is the ear candy loop, it's to Obvious and too static and cliché ommhhhhh stststststsstst... ALL THE F#CKING Time

come on man, keep the synths, bassline but work on impressive percussion, taking the track to the next level.

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Originally posted by Seandroid Interesting that you guys don't seem very fond of this. I think it's one of the more interesting and unique things I've done. It's a lot more experimental, I guess.

I thin kit's a good track within it's genre, sound is a bit too harsh/clippered and stereo widerer is too wide/phasey

but when you put a bit less "dubstep" and a bit more "daft punk" in there, you would have the right balance for Mou5etrap, if that's what you're aiming for.
overall, beyond above, impressive

this is my previous post revisited, on the deeper, morey groovy, hypnotic organic side of house.
A full round kick, hypnotic percussion and weird nuances changing over time.

Mind you this is LIVE tweaking, (turning knobs, mixing channels and applying FX) works best if you just go with the flow, it's not polished, just lush deep grooves for when you're not sober

you can download the HQ WAV if you want to listen full bitrate.

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Originally posted by Raphie so in potential it's a nice track, mix stil a bit dull, but what realy bothers me is the ear candy loop, it's to Obvious and too static and cliché ommhhhhh stststststsstst... ALL THE F#CKING Time come on man, keep the synths, bassline but work on impressive percussion, taking the track to the next level.

Finally, raphie you rule, thanks man. I'll work on making the mix warmer some how, any suggestions?

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Originally posted by Juan Paulino Finally, raphie you rule, thanks man. I'll work on making the mix warmer some how, any suggestions?

3k to 5k medium Q is your friend, stay away from the metalic 8k-10k
your looking for liquid opening up the mix.

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Originally posted by Raphie 3k to 5k medium Q is your friend, stay away from the metalic 8k-10k your looking for liquid opening up the mix.

Hmm, i guess i should look up ways to do things like this on my master channel because i don't have didly squat on it

and by ear candy, is that a good thing?

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Originally posted by Raphie 3k to 5k medium Q is your friend, stay away from the metalic 8k-10k your looking for liquid opening up the mix.

to make the mix warmer?? not sure thats the range for warmth, 3k to 5k will make it more in your face tho

The way i see most modern tracks is

a beat (kick + percs hihats)
I really like people who program these rather then grab vengeance or loopmasters

then you have your bass synths, these need already to sound phat and crispy solo, but also gell with the drums

then you'll have some leads / plucks / stabs whatever, these will need to bring the emotion

and then you have your fair share of risers/downers/explosions and fx layers to further spice up your percussion. If you feel you need to use these, then you're not able to build enough tension with your core content.

A lot of people might dissagree, but a lot of stuff i hear is form over substance, meaning, the whole shebbang of the right samples, the right presets and the right midi rifs are there, so near perfect execution technically, but the track itself is then F#cking boring, if you knw what I mean, not saying your track is, but YOU should be able to be happy with your track jst trusting your core components, rather than leads and bass being a sorry ass excuse for completing the track.

with ear candy i mean all the whooshes, 8 measure loopmasters/vengeance/nexus FX samples, sidechained built ups, explosions.... you don't need all that crap. The arrangement and melody should speak for itself. Or if you want to use ear candy, make some yourself and use it differently than everybody else.

just some general thoughts here.

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Originally posted by evo8 to make the mix warmer?? not sure thats the range for warmth, 3k to 5k will make it more in your face tho

3k-5k is mid/high, it will open up the mix.
that's the "warm" side of highs, compared to 10k which is the earpiercing harsch side of highs

And i would not neccecarilly apply this to your master, but use it to let some elements "shine" (i.e. liven up percussion/ironwork and your leads)

i did not mention warmer, as in 3rd order harmonics or creamy lows.

No loops here, everything is done by only me. Vengeance can suck it.

Updated.

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Originally posted by Richard Butler It sounds good, but I don't know whats yours and whats the original so I cannot comment too much. The shuffle hats / snares I hear now and then do not work, the timing is a bit off and they are to much filling the soundscape, keep it a bit cleaner. Sorts of track I hear playing on FIFA games.

Thanks Richard...really do appreciate your feedback

Peep this. let me know what you like and dislike. I tried to keep things constantly changing. track produced on reason6

Here's what I've got going, I posted an earlier version a while ago but this is approaching full length now.

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my honest opinion for what it is worth... I happen to love this style of EDM. I listen to W&Ws radio show every week and hear similar tunes. your track has all the elements. the sound quality is great and the track works. For me though it is just missing something that grabs me and pulls me in, completely subjective I guess. Overall a good effort.

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