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Posted by Juan Paulino on Oct-27-2013 18:42:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceElevation
Doesn't matter what you use. It is more important accustoming your ears to the equipment.



Monitors are not a default insurance for success. If you are fundamentally stupid with low capacity of analysis and correct interpretation of circumstances even the most expensive arsenal won't save you. It might illude you, but it won't save you.


Your such a big time noob.


Posted by Seandroid on Oct-27-2013 20:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Vancouver
New Track That is a bit harder than previous. hope someone likes it.



I'm not sure I can handle hearing that sample in another song haha. I wish the track wasn't so plinky-plonky in regards to the melody. And I feel like it should hit harder. It's too reverby and doesn't have that sort of powerful rhythmic impact. Of course I'm not really sure what your artistic direction was.


Posted by Vancouver on Oct-27-2013 20:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Seandroid
I'm not sure I can handle hearing that sample in another song haha. I wish the track wasn't so plinky-plonky in regards to the melody. And I feel like it should hit harder. It's too reverby and doesn't have that sort of powerful rhythmic impact. Of course I'm not really sure what your artistic direction was.



I promise I won't use that sample again haha. thx for the feedback.


Posted by Richard Butler on Oct-27-2013 21:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Vancouver
New Track That is a bit harder than previous. hope someone likes it.



It's very polished, are most of the sounds your own?

My last 2 tracks people say they want a more aggressive bass, do you mean like this one which is a WIP I posted a while back, but with new beats and bass;


Posted by TranceElevation on Oct-27-2013 21:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Juan Paulino
Your such a big time noob.


It is a bit like a Ferrari. A fast car which would be devalued from a sense if you put a handicapped behind the wheel.

Or a bit like a Moog Voyager. A magical piece of hardware which won't serve shit in the hands of an idiot.

And this leads me to your topic about the barefoot monitors.
Most people were pissed at you not cause they are rude bitches, but simply cause they were convinced you are a hopeless idiot who no matter what gear possess will never make it.

Most people around here consider you an idiot Juan Paolino, deal with it.


Posted by TranceElevation on Oct-27-2013 21:24:

Richard, what is your daw?


Posted by Seandroid on Oct-27-2013 21:41:

FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!


Posted by Vancouver on Oct-27-2013 21:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
It's very polished, are most of the sounds your own?

My last 2 tracks people say they want a more aggressive bass, do you mean like this one which is a WIP I posted a while back, but with new beats and bass;



besides the vengeance samples that pop up I made the other sounds.
not a huge fan of the vocal but I really dig the rest. I should start listening to more DnB


Posted by evo8 on Oct-27-2013 23:19:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceElevation
At this stage you got some serious problems with the bass in general, but with your ears moreover.
What the heck are you listening on? The low end is there and for the type of track it is very appropriate.

The bass shouldn't be boomy nor it should stick out, in many tracks it does almost work on a subconscious level I'd say.

So really, you should rethink your interpretation of edm.


LOL im listening on Focal SM9s - what are you listening on??

Listen to that track posted by Evolve140 (good fortune) for a decently mixed bassline - maybe a bit too much sub but it sits well


Posted by MSZ on Oct-27-2013 23:36:

Nigga, you just activated his trap card.


Posted by TranceElevation on Oct-28-2013 00:50:

quote:
Originally posted by evo8
LOL im listening on Focal SM9s - what are you listening on??

Listen to that track posted by Evolve140 (good fortune) for a decently mixed bassline - maybe a bit too much sub but it sits well


Wow, you listen on Focal SM9s? So please tell me, where did they brought you?

The track from Evolve you're suggesting is completely different genre. Also, do you know the difference between bass and sub-bass?
The bass extends till 250hz. That Vancouver guy cut everything below 80hz, which is totally fine and common for bass. And the sub-bass, which you erroneously confound with the bass, is actually in the kick. (That 60hz you're whining about, but that you don't hear cause of the kick being collected/compressed with short decay.) You're mind probably needs a slower bpm to notice.

So my friend, what you're talking about is actually the sub-bass, which you should understand, isn't mandatory by the way. Some tracks are just good without it. (A different case is when we talk about deep-house, the track from Evolve you indicated).

Cause otherwise, by your strange perspective, we should wonder also where is the bass in this track?


I guess you need to explain to that noob Armin...

A completely different thing is when we talk about tracks like this one where the sub is essential.


Posted by evo8 on Oct-28-2013 12:50:

quote:
Originally posted by MSZ
Nigga, you just activated his trap card.


humouring myself


Posted by evo8 on Oct-28-2013 12:50:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceElevation
Wow, you listen on Focal SM9s? So please tell me, where did they brought you?

The track from Evolve you're suggesting is completely different genre. Also, do you know the difference between bass and sub-bass?
The bass extends till 250hz. That Vancouver guy cut everything below 80hz, which is totally fine and common for bass. And the sub-bass, which you erroneously confound with the bass, is actually in the kick. (That 60hz you're whining about, but that you don't hear cause of the kick being collected/compressed with short decay.) You're mind probably needs a slower bpm to notice.

So my friend, what you're talking about is actually the sub-bass, which you should understand, isn't mandatory by the way. Some tracks are just good without it. (A different case is when we talk about deep-house, the track from Evolve you indicated).

Cause otherwise, by your strange perspective, we should wonder also where is the bass in this track?


I guess you need to explain to that noob Armin...

A completely different thing is when we talk about tracks like this one where the sub is essential.


yes


Posted by Juan Paulino on Oct-28-2013 12:52:


Posted by Richard Butler on Oct-28-2013 14:26:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceElevation
Richard, what is your daw?



Cubase 5 is my DAW, but my mixing issues are I think to do with not having proper monitors and usually just relying on basic computer speakers and old Sony cans.


Posted by Juan Paulino on Oct-28-2013 14:30:

Drop the bass!



Ready for climax.


Posted by evo8 on Oct-29-2013 13:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Juan Paulino
Drop the bass!



Ready for climax.


dont like the kick - too clicky or something, pity as everything else pretty good, sounds big


Posted by Deillon on Oct-29-2013 15:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Juan Paulino
Your such a big time noob.

What part of TranceElevation his post are you referring to, because I think he's spot on?


Posted by Juan Paulino on Oct-29-2013 17:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Deillon
What part of TranceElevation his post are you referring to, because I think he's spot on?


Do you like gabber music>?


Posted by Juan Paulino on Oct-29-2013 17:19:

quote:
Originally posted by evo8
dont like the kick - too clicky or something, pity as everything else pretty good, sounds big


You never like my kicks hehee, thanks homes. Will be pretty much upgrading to the SM9's by christmas.


Posted by chris marsh on Oct-29-2013 17:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Juan Paulino
Drop the bass!



Ready for climax.


i like the atmosphere here, very nice

agree on the kick, not a fan

vocal fx are cool and overall mix is pretty tight imo

also it sounds in key so that's a big improvement

did you make/program the synths or are they loops??

i think it needs to go somewhere, you have the same loops looping in the background it needs a progression/movment

but in my humble opinion your really coming along so keep at it dude


Posted by Juan Paulino on Oct-29-2013 17:49:

quote:
Originally posted by chris marsh
i like the atmosphere here, very nice

agree on the kick, not a fan

vocal fx are cool and overall mix is pretty tight imo

also it sounds in key so that's a big improvement

did you make/program the synths or are they loops??

i think it needs to go somewhere, you have the same loops looping in the background it needs a progression/movment

but in my humble opinion your really coming along so keep at it dude


Thank you so much man...Synths are programmed by me, one Logic's own ES P synth, new logic 10's retro synth FM style and one virus TI lead (last one).


Posted by chris marsh on Oct-29-2013 17:51:

guys i got the demo recording of the vocals back (she lives in another city so its a remote collab)

My honest opinion is im really not keen - there's a lot of tuning issues too. I quite like the verse ideas but the chorus sounds really out of tune to me and just not the feel i wanted

Im only posting this here cos im sure she wont see it - i wouldn't want to offend her with my opinions

I piad her upfront as well (im a noob at working with vocalists). From now on im recording all my own singers too

Whats your honest opinions guys??

Cheers


Posted by Juan Paulino on Oct-29-2013 18:32:

Sounds groovy, I like.


Posted by jf2010 on Oct-29-2013 21:56:

quote:
Originally posted by chris marsh
guys i got the demo recording of the vocals back (she lives in another city so its a remote collab)

My honest opinion is im really not keen - there's a lot of tuning issues too. I quite like the verse ideas but the chorus sounds really out of tune to me and just not the feel i wanted

Im only posting this here cos im sure she wont see it - i wouldn't want to offend her with my opinions

I piad her upfront as well (im a noob at working with vocalists). From now on im recording all my own singers too

Whats your honest opinions guys??

Cheers



Really liked that, imo the singer sounds very nice, the chorus part maybe is a little out on some words, but when i listened to it it sounds like it is purposely half spoken for effect & not that she's going out of tune .. the part at around 2.02 sounds cool aswell. Overall very nice & funky


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