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Not my cup of tea this time, but that shouldn't be a point of worry . Do lower the bass in volume and the mix is pretty well balanced!

common occurrence, me with my bass. I'm looking to get some bigger monitors soon, make life easier for myself. not sure if i'd objectively dig this piece myself if I havent made it.

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Originally posted by szm msz · returntosender I seem happier with this one, all the mishmash of transients group into this ball. stuffed quite a bit in, mix seems rough to say the least. also working to make it more interesting.

very droney... maybe try some filters on the deep bass-pad to make it stand out more, maybe do some BP sweeps or some shit like that. If you got one; render the pad alone, then do the sweeps on a rotary mixer with a 3 band ISO, then mix it back in. It sounds kinda static as is. and of course add some risers and sweeps before the hats kick in again, and maybe do automation lowering the bass frequencies right before you bring it all back in for more of an oomph, and maybe try to find a nice plucky sound that plays the opposite notes of the pad to create more of an epic prog feel and more melodious track... thats my two nickles or cents or whatever kinda currency you have in your country.... toonies? LOLs.... Also, WASSSSSUUUUUUUUUUUUP?!?!?
Wish my computer wasnt broken on the way to Spain, and that my laptop wasnt stolen either, haha.. This shit cant even run a single instance of Synth1, let alone anything like Sylenth haha... Send reverb? More like stuttering haha.. And thats running it throung a air 192/4... Not the best (i miss my AP 192 LOL EVE CHIP FOREVER HAHA) but it allowed me to hook up three sets of speakers to one input and it was dirt cheap at a non-music related store - WINNING!!!!

bruhhh

its 2022 man, no ones using a computer to make music anymore, its all about the kanye stem player!



nice to c u !!

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Originally posted by itsamemario very droney... maybe try some filters on the deep bass-pad to make it stand out more, maybe do some BP sweeps or some shit like that. If you got one; render the pad alone, then do the sweeps on a rotary mixer with a 3 band ISO, then mix it back in. It sounds kinda static as is. and of course add some risers and sweeps before the hats kick in again, and maybe do automation lowering the bass frequencies right before you bring it all back in for more of an oomph, and maybe try to find a nice plucky sound that plays the opposite notes of the pad to create more of an epic prog feel and more melodious track...

Pretty much what was said right here M. It most certainly needs some higher frequencies because you do have quite a bit of sub freq rolling.



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SO, to break out of my chillout D&B phase and go a little more "driven", I decided to go back in the mess of folders on another drive. I found one folder containing several project files and after listening to some I found they were all the same but with different variations. I remember why I left this behind. I gave up on it..LOL.
Total train wreck but had some salvageable parts So, 5 years later and I decided to pull some bits and pieces out of all of projects and this is what is becoming of it.

I dont wanna come off as mean but seems like quite a load of issues to tackle. your last wip and this wip everything under like 200hz is being sucked out of energy. the top end is grating as hell, your mid content has no room to breath, but I dig the synth line for the most part.

take what I say with a grain of salt as you see my mixes arent good.

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Originally posted by szm I dont wanna come off as mean but seems like quite a load of issues to tackle. your last wip and this wip everything under like 200hz is being sucked out of energy. the top end is grating as hell, your mid content has no room to breath, but I dig the synth line for the most part. take what I say with a grain of salt as you see my mixes arent good.

Nope, you speak the truth because that doesnt have a mix at all. Basically just a couple of chunks that I wanted to first, get some kind of decent composition and then second, the arrangement. Then I would be focusing on the mix. Kinda the way I work..lol

oh that explains it, looking forward to listening to it mixed because I probably couldn't mix all that personally, not that I could mix anything. All these years went by and im still shit, kind of in a rut since I lost reason.

also riddle me this, if my room has a node with enhanced bass, would that make my bass overcompensated or undercompensated? I would think the latter but its not the case, im confused.

missed your track msz (as usual ha)

i put this together just to try it out, something with low end is not grooving properly, too much perhaps??

wish I could help, low end monitoring is a problem on my end.your low end reminds me of some dusty kid tracks, he does these large boomy basses really well, maybe something to compare? I've seen a few videos on youtube where they basically tell you the low pass your master and hit like 100hz and under to gauge the boom roll. doesnt work for me because my listening setup is whack.

im reluctant to post another wip, because I know the mix is shit and agressive, there is probably a track buried somewhere in there...

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Originally posted by szm im reluctant to post another wip, because I know the mix is shit and agressive, there is probably a track buried somewhere in there... msz · ecia

So, I agree. There is a track in there but I believe that you could take that Saw and re formulate it in with some more voicing. Possibly even add another oscillator with some triangle or square voicing to fill it out. Just a thought but that main chord progression would sound nice if it was a Pad with some ducking under it.
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Back at this....sounding a little better maybe with the changes??

the mids sound so nice; great piece. on my system im not sold on your kick and lower bass area, I think... not sure, maybe the kick is a bit too 'tappy'? relatively, just guessing I cant comprehend it too well.

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Originally posted by szm the mids sound so nice; great piece. on my system im not sold on your kick and lower bass area, I think... not sure, maybe the kick is a bit too 'tappy'? relatively, just guessing I cant comprehend it too well.

Thanks for that MSZ, yea...at one point I was getting some shared frequencies there so I did a low pass and although it did give some definition, I probably should have gone with another sub or kick on that. With that said, it was only on my monitors that I noticed it. I listened to it on several other reference systems and it actually was alright. This could be chocked up to preference and I got bored of working on it so I just let it pass.

Ok so just starting this track. Full on WIP that is not mixed. Composition is "starting" to take form but percussion quality should probably be ignored due to them being placeholders.
Arrangement is getting there, I am wanting to get some more flow on the filters and for sure need to get a solid lead going.
Concept wise, I am liking it but obviously got a lot of work to do.
I've been finding if I stick to my intuition and scratch a piece before I drag myself on and on "hoping" it will stick, is getting better but, this piece is drawing me in.

does sound pretty nice, got that mau5 vibe going on, would enjoy hearing it mixed with those sexy mids.

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Originally posted by szm does sound pretty nice, got that mau5 vibe going on, would enjoy hearing it mixed with those sexy mids.

And if Joel still lurked on these boards, he’d probably say “Stop” LOL

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Originally posted by szm im reluctant to post another wip, because I know the mix is shit and agressive, there is probably a track buried somewhere in there... msz · ecia and one more because. msz · los3r

Ecia is really nice progression/melody, like it
Los3r sounds a bit too distorted or something

yea I dont like either of them. cheers for listening!

Redux - Still working it. Composition has been adjusted and arrangement is ongoing. Still want to work in an arp and possibly a lead. Pads need some brightening.Hopefully it's sounding better on your guys end as well

sounds great to me, looking forward to hearing the mixed version, hope you put some weight into the lower mids.

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Originally posted by szm sounds great to me, looking forward to hearing the mixed version, hope you put some weight into the lower mids. msz · llllmemory a loop of sort, im not happy with the production finding it hard to improve the overall mix. I havent made a good mix yet in ableton, although I am stuffing it too much with garbage. playing around too much with the master channel.

Didn't get a chance to hear it, sorry about that. I am curious however as "almost" every WIP you post, you yourself do not like. I myself personally have liked your ideas behind your tracks and I also believe that ,THAT is where it starts. I also believe that the point of this thread should still be utilized for those wanting advice on their track. That could mean anwheres between arrangement,composition & production imho
So, I am also curious as to whether you are or not finishing any of these tracks you post because I believe it is important TO do so. Granted, not every track we make gets a green light. I have taken to the 24 hour rule. If it isn't appealing by that time, its gone.
Just curious in support because I know doing this at times can be frustrating at the same time, it HAS to be fun and unrestricted and I worry that you inhibit your creativity

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First techno fart around attempt in 7 years. Hard WIP - No Mix @ 138BPM in F

really like that techno fart for the most part, I wouldn't even call it techno, more like good quality trance. when the saws come in it gets quite busy, so after that im not in. maybe more of a short release short decay staccato thingy might work better or a stubby pluck, i dunno.


and to explain, I was using ableton for a few months and yes I was unhappy I couldn't bend the sounds like I did in reason, what you heard were experiments in sound and failed ones, not really track attempts, but trying to get a knack for sound design/mixing.

im currently daw-less, hope to pick up reason again in the holiday maybe. and yes I do need work on my track making skills, micro transitions, builds, things like that for sure, taking the lazy route most of the time, which I do hope to progress at some point. its not a priority right now.

I downloaded a demo of reason the other night, and I am happy with how I bend sound over there. too bad I cant export, re-open saves atm.

I could capture my screen with obs, so there is that. this is a lot closer to the sound im aiming for.

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