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Posted by klappa on Feb-24-2014 19:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Adam420
Never use the FX send & return but the interface is very intuitive on the 42 (but you already knew that).


So your think i should stick to the 42?


Posted by Adam420 on Feb-24-2014 21:30:

yes.


Posted by klappa on Feb-25-2014 10:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Adam420
yes.


I have the older Xone 42 model with the silver plate. I've heard the filter section can break down on those older models. Anyway i've bought the Xone 92. Kinda late now.

It could be overkill but i've always sought after the Xone 92 even before i bought the Xone 42, hadn't found any willing selling the Xone 92 for a cheap price until now so i am taking the chance.

It may not be worth it but oh well..


Posted by DJ RANN on Feb-25-2014 18:28:

Don't stress, you can always sell it for good money if you don't like it.

From memory (and it's been a few years) with the 92, you have to route the FX return to another channel which can be a little bit fiddly but coming from a studio background (which is how it's always done) it never bothered me.

Regarding the 4 band eq - some people love it others don't - it's personal preference. Some people only like a 3 band EQ as it's easier to do things like bass drop outs or treble pumping etc, whereas I know other people that move having the control over all 4 bands for smoother frequency mixing. Either way, you lose one thing and gain another.

Doesn't the 92 also have built in midi control?


Posted by klappa on Feb-25-2014 19:57:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
Don't stress, you can always sell it for good money if you don't like it.

From memory (and it's been a few years) with the 92, you have to route the FX return to another channel which can be a little bit fiddly but coming from a studio background (which is how it's always done) it never bothered me.

Regarding the 4 band eq - some people love it others don't - it's personal preference. Some people only like a 3 band EQ as it's easier to do things like bass drop outs or treble pumping etc, whereas I know other people that move having the control over all 4 bands for smoother frequency mixing. Either way, you lose one thing and gain another.

Doesn't the 92 also have built in midi control?


Thanks for the answer! I don't know why a four eq would be a bad thing. Regarding the midi-control i seriously don't know but i have to check that out.

edit: It's the older silver plate model made in the uk. Is that a bad thing?


Posted by DJ RANN on Feb-28-2014 01:20:

quote:
Originally posted by dj christian
Thanks for the answer! I don't know why a four eq would be a bad thing. Regarding the midi-control i seriously don't know but i have to check that out.

edit: It's the older silver plate model made in the uk. Is that a bad thing?


Some people don't like the 4 band as you can't always do the bass drop-out effect or have as easy control as you would with 3 bands.

Personally, I think both have their pro's and cons - 4 band means much more option to do smooth mixes as you have better control over the frequency ranges, especially as a lot of "bass" in EDM is actually lower mid - on the 92 you have a dedicated EQ for that.

The silver plate model is actually better if anything. Sure, you have to factor in that it's older, but the 92 got it's rep as a quality build from the units that were made in the UK. Right at that time, I used to manager the largest Pro Audio and DJ store in Europe.

We sold countless 92's and I don't think we had a single one come back from malfunction. That was quite the achievement given that DJ equipment isn't usually built to the greatest standards and that they are often abused.

A lot of people were moaning that A&H did a bait and switch with the 92 with the later models - built a reputation with the hand (UK) made ones, then once popular and in demand, did mass production in china.

Still the later black models weren't "bad" by any means, just that sometimes quality control is more difficult to manage when dealing with mass production. Same components, just different build process.

As long as your unit works, you're absolutely fine and it should be good for many years to come.


Posted by PaULiN0 on Mar-01-2014 01:09:

I'm thinking of buying a T1 from pioneer, all I need is basically 2 channels for now.


Posted by DJ RANN on Mar-01-2014 19:11:

quote:
Originally posted by PaULiN0
I'm thinking of buying a T1 from pioneer, all I need is basically 2 channels for now.


What? Didn't you just buy 2 x CDJ 2000 Nexus? Why would you need an integrated DJmixer/controller?


Posted by PaULiN0 on Mar-01-2014 20:30:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
What? Didn't you just buy 2 x CDJ 2000 Nexus? Why would you need an integrated DJmixer/controller?


Im not to sure actually, I just hope the T1 has the same DAC as 900 Nexus. So my bedroom setup would mimic that of a club, so I'll right at home when I play out. The integrated part would just be a plus and also I would have a built in sound card for recording.


Posted by DJ RANN on Mar-02-2014 01:53:

quote:
Originally posted by PaULiN0
Im not to sure actually, I just hope the T1 has the same DAC as 900 Nexus. So my bedroom setup would mimic that of a club, so I'll right at home when I play out. The integrated part would just be a plus and also I would have a built in sound card for recording.


Wat? You are going to have a T1 and 2 x CDJ2000Nexus. So much redundancy there.

Wow, your Dad must really hate keeping his money.


Posted by PaULiN0 on Mar-02-2014 02:38:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
Wat? You are going to have a T1 and 2 x CDJ2000Nexus. So much redundancy there.

Wow, your Dad must really hate keeping his money.


Who the hell ever told you its his money. i pay for my own shit out of my own rich pocket. There's def nothing wrong with a T1 Rann. If i'm satisfied I'll get the 900's nexus if not i'll stay with my ecler. I also wouldn't need extra cables for recording only a usb cable to the laptop straight form the mixer.


Posted by DJ RANN on Mar-03-2014 20:05:

quote:
Originally posted by PaULiN0
Who the hell ever told you its his money. i pay for my own shit out of my own rich pocket. There's def nothing wrong with a T1 Rann. If i'm satisfied I'll get the 900's nexus if not i'll stay with my ecler. I also wouldn't need extra cables for recording only a usb cable to the laptop straight form the mixer.


Actually, you did, a long while ago. Don't you also work for your dad? I don't care who or where your money comes form. I don't care your your money full stop. I can afford to buy anything I want. I own and expensive house (outright) a new expensive car - my dream DJ setup - all bought and paid for by me. Buy whatever shit you want - I do, but I at least think about what I'm buying.

There's nothing wrong with a t1 but it's an all in one controller and mixer. Why the fuck would you possibly need that when you just bought two CDJ2000 nexus?

And fuck me, for someone so concerned about audio quality (i.e. sold CDJ900's because you "didn't like the dac" in them) you might want to educate yourself how fucking horrible the audio quality is on all Pioneer mixers.


Posted by PaULiN0 on Mar-03-2014 21:45:

Thats why there's a pioneer mixer in evverrrrry fucking club you dj at LOL and if you don't care where i get my money stop mentioning my fucking family bitch,


Posted by junkproject on Mar-04-2014 03:23:

Maybe in the states. You start to see more A&H used in euro tho.


Posted by PaULiN0 on Mar-04-2014 05:00:

I like Pioneer so if you don't thats your problem.


Posted by junkproject on Mar-04-2014 06:26:

Okay.....


Posted by PaULiN0 on Mar-04-2014 06:59:

Are you saying that one's better than the other?


Posted by junkproject on Mar-04-2014 08:17:

No, I'm saying you see more variety of mixer in European events\clubs and Pioneer is not the standard in Europe.


Posted by PaULiN0 on Mar-04-2014 09:16:

Oh I see.


Posted by PivotTechno on Mar-04-2014 13:16:

Maybe take some of that money you spend on gear and buy yourself some therapy. You seem terribly insecure and are way too easily set off by the opinions of others.

Maybe it's a Florida thing.


Posted by PaULiN0 on Mar-04-2014 13:17:

go fuck yourself and take your needle bullshit up your fat ass.

You don't contribute to anything on here in the dj booth just comment on people you like being attacked.


Posted by PivotTechno on Mar-04-2014 13:28:

Yeah, just like that.


Posted by PaULiN0 on Mar-04-2014 13:32:

I know


Posted by DJ RANN on Mar-05-2014 00:15:

quote:
Originally posted by PaULiN0
Thats why there's a pioneer mixer in evverrrrry fucking club you dj at LOL and if you don't care where i get my money stop mentioning my fucking family bitch,


A) that's because Pioneer have spent an absolute fortune over the past decade paying DJ's to endorse their kit. They also offer big clubs subsidsised rates on their equipment. And they did a great job of convincing aspiring DJ muppets that they needed their kit lol.

B) Because you keep stating it's your money and you earned it, when clearly it's not, and no one I've ever met who has to truly earn their money is as happy to part with it on useless purchases as you are.

quote:
Originally posted by PaULiN0
Are you saying that one's better than the other?


Hell fucking yes. Pioneer are turd in terms of build quality and especially audio quality. They certainly have the market cornered when it comes to cheesey toy FX and I'm the first person to say their CDJ's are best, but their mixers? Utter dogshit.

I can name 5 other brands whose mid-level offerings are superior in both sonic quality and build quality compared to Pioneers top-of-the-range mixers.

How do I know this? I'm a certified service technician for nearly every brand of Pro Audio and DJ equipment, including Pioneer.

Just try redlining a pioneer ever so slightly. Listen to what happens :;

quote:
Originally posted by PaULiN0
I like Pioneer so if you don't thats your problem.


Given the above info, I'd say it's your problem

That's why I'm able to poke fun at you - you're soooooo concerned with audio quality, to the point you buy and sell CDJ's based on what DAC chip they have on them, or seriously consider a $1000 usb cable but yet you run it all through a pioneer mixer


Posted by Adam420 on Mar-05-2014 18:37:

Holy shit, Juan, you come off as being utterly pathetic in these threads.


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