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Originally posted by Juan Paulino Check out my new remix of magnetic north.

good one, kick needs to be a bit lower for this kind of tracks, reducing it 1-2 db can add some space and you could mix it again but sounds very good.

Right now it's -3db/-4db right? I usually mix at-5 for chill tracks.

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Originally posted by Evolve140 Spent a little time on a composition because I'm trying out pianoteq. Loving it so far. Triplets, 4/4, 128 BPM https://soundcloud.com/fallisjesse/piano-humanized A version that is much more quantized...

Great work. I think I like the one that isn't quantized better.

Thanks guys.

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Originally posted by evo8 a bit dry no? could do with some nice reverb imo - the sound is very mid heavy as well, i think it could do with some cuts in the low-mids

Yeah agreed, I suppose I wasn't too worried about the production value, just wanted to test my piano composition skills because it's been a while since I've tried.

I'll move forward with it and EQ and produce it. Pianoteq verb is pretty shit, I'll do my own work on it. Thanks for checking.

about the piano, i prefer second version it does not sound very natural tho.

Are you playing a midi piano or placing the notes manually? just curious i hope it's the first because seems ellaborated. If you want to add some realism use some slight reverb and stereo delay on the full record or at some parts. Real piano players use the right pedal to add some reverb at some points so you should too.

I drew every note in the piano roll. There is a lot of velocity variation. The humanized version has MPC 16 swing on it, which makes it a little less rigid but I'm still trying to work on getting the sound more realistic. I haven't experimented with stereo effects too much because I wanted to get the composition and so forth timed to where it sounds live. I know it won't ever sound performed live because they're just drawn MIDI notes, but just close enough that the average listener can't tell the difference.

I'm going to work on notching out some of the big mid and low frequencies, processing, and delay/reverb to make it sound more presentable.

L4C, where you at? ^_^

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Originally posted by Evolve140 I drew every note in the piano roll. There is a lot of velocity variation. The humanized version has MPC 16 swing on it, which makes it a little less rigid but I'm still trying to work on getting the sound more realistic. I haven't experimented with stereo effects too much because I wanted to get the composition and so forth timed to where it sounds live. I know it won't ever sound performed live because they're just drawn MIDI notes, but just close enough that the average listener can't tell the difference. I'm going to work on notching out some of the big mid and low frequencies, processing, and delay/reverb to make it sound more presentable. L4C, where you at? ^_^

Cool ideas in your pieces - if you want to make it sound more realistic just try playing it in on the keyboard imo - you can always tighten up the timing after

Theres no better way to make it sound realistic - that way you will actually be playing something that a human would naturally play and it wont sound so robotic and nonhuman

Ive been learning piano for around 3 years and although it was originally just to try and improve my productions i absolutely love it

this is an idea im working on - vocals are from loopmasters - everything else is made from scratch

needs lots of little details and polishing etc

Its different than what ive done before wasnt trying to sound like anything in particular - enjoyed making swung 2 step beats a lot

any opinions are welcome

C

huh such an effort... well the best way to sound realistic would be playing it on midi velocities but also you should chop some notes something like arpeggios on the same note that can add some realism.

For example if you are playing the C key you can chop it in 3 and each of its parts having different velocities, that adds an extra value to the composition.

https://soundcloud.com/fallisjesse/pianomusic23





Now with processing.

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Originally posted by chris marsh Cool ideas in your pieces - if you want to make it sound more realistic just try playing it in on the keyboard imo - you can always tighten up the timing after Theres no better way to make it sound realistic - that way you will actually be playing something that a human would naturally play and it wont sound so robotic and nonhuman Ive been learning piano for around 3 years and although it was originally just to try and improve my productions i absolutely love it this is an idea im working on - vocals are from loopmasters - everything else is made from scratch needs lots of little details and polishing etc Its different than what ive done before wasnt trying to sound like anything in particular - enjoyed making swung 2 step beats a lot any opinions are welcome C

nice vibe right off the bat... vox are mixed in nicely. i like them a lot. reminds me of hanging out with a cute girl ^_^

build up is pretty sweet to, can't wait to hear the drop. nice subtlety with that piano. I would like to hear that bassline low passed though. The grit kind of conflicts with how mellow the track is.

Vocals are beautiful. Hell yeah man. NICE!

Are you fucking kidding me? This is excellent! At 2:00 though... not digging that Mario piano though. Kind of detracts from the solid vibe you had going before. Focus on that main meat you had before.

Vocals are perfect though.

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Originally posted by Evolve140 nice vibe right off the bat... vox are mixed in nicely. i like them a lot. reminds me of hanging out with a cute girl ^_^ build up is pretty sweet to, can't wait to hear the drop. nice subtlety with that piano. I would like to hear that bassline low passed though. The grit kind of conflicts with how mellow the track is. Vocals are beautiful. Hell yeah man. NICE! Are you fucking kidding me? This is excellent! At 2:00 though... not digging that Mario piano though. Kind of detracts from the solid vibe you had going before. Focus on that main meat you had before. Vocals are perfect though.

Thanks you mate for the very nice feedback. 100% agree the bass isnt right have to find a balance of a modern sounding bass without being too bright

I personally dont mind the Mario piano though although it could do with more variation for sure

Yes i like the vocals too - from a loop masters CD that gives you a lot of different vocal tracks for each song

That is really nice. Very well executed. Only thing I think it might benefit from is placing the bass further back in the mix and maybe reduce the impact of the transient it has, making it a bit less prominent. Other than that it's a really nice track with cool vocals.

I'd enjoy this a lot on my headphones while being on the road . Well done!

edit: Obviously, I didn't read the feedback given earlier haha.

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Originally posted by Storyteller That is really nice. Very well executed. Only thing I think it might benefit from is placing the bass further back in the mix and maybe reduce the impact of the transient it has, making it a bit less prominent. Other than that it's a really nice track with cool vocals. I'd enjoy this a lot on my headphones while being on the road . Well done! edit: Obviously, I didn't read the feedback given earlier haha.

Thanks very much! Agreed on the bass Going back to the drawing board with that and also add a few fx, fills, ear candy maybe some flute samples

Cheers for listening

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Originally posted by chris marsh Cool ideas in your pieces - if you want to make it sound more realistic just try playing it in on the keyboard imo - you can always tighten up the timing after Theres no better way to make it sound realistic - that way you will actually be playing something that a human would naturally play and it wont sound so robotic and nonhuman Ive been learning piano for around 3 years and although it was originally just to try and improve my productions i absolutely love it this is an idea im working on - vocals are from loopmasters - everything else is made from scratch needs lots of little details and polishing etc Its different than what ive done before wasnt trying to sound like anything in particular - enjoyed making swung 2 step beats a lot any opinions are welcome C

yeah this is cool, the metallic bassline sound im not so sure about, if you just had a deepish bass on its own i think it might work better......

yup yup, super dope. deep house vibe right away. just a really feel goodsound. the breaks are super housey.... overall big house vibe for sure. now a days, sexy soulful vocals mixed in with something like this is the sound a lot of people are after. i would seriously play this out. even if you don't low pass that bass sound, people are going to really like this. do you plan on having this played out anytime soon?

Oh and by the way, nice percussion! the highs really breath well.

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Originally posted by chris marsh C

Chris this is well black, didn't know you had this sort of track in you. Really cool, perfect.

Don't add too many fx and frilly bits, it doesn't need much.

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Originally posted by Rodri Santos good one, kick needs to be a bit lower for this kind of tracks, reducing it 1-2 db can add some space and you could mix it again but sounds very good. Right now it's -3db/-4db right? I usually mix at-5 for chill tracks.

yea the bass drum sounds like shite

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Originally posted by Richard Butler Chris this is well black, didn't know you had this sort of track in you. Really cool, perfect. Don't add too many fx and frilly bits, it doesn't need much.

Good arrangmeent but sounds flat as a ....really flat thing

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Originally posted by chris marsh Cool ideas in your pieces - if you want to make it sound more realistic just try playing it in on the keyboard imo - you can always tighten up the timing after Theres no better way to make it sound realistic - that way you will actually be playing something that a human would naturally play and it wont sound so robotic and nonhuman Ive been learning piano for around 3 years and although it was originally just to try and improve my productions i absolutely love it this is an idea im working on - vocals are from loopmasters - everything else is made from scratch needs lots of little details and polishing etc Its different than what ive done before wasnt trying to sound like anything in particular - enjoyed making swung 2 step beats a lot any opinions are welcome C

Chris,
Really dig the vibe you are portraying with this. IMHO it has a Daft feel to it and a great "swing" touch and the vocals [well we all know what that does to a track]
I cannot really give any negative feedback in all honesty, this track is solid. I will say that the piano is a little to straight and narrow. Maybe some added delay or a small bit of sustain? Just my 2 cents. Great work!!

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Originally posted by scorpradio Chris, Really dig the vibe you are portraying with this. IMHO it has a Daft feel to it and a great "swing" touch and the vocals [well we all know what that does to a track] I cannot really give any negative feedback in all honesty, this track is solid. I will say that the piano is a little to straight and narrow. Maybe some added delay or a small bit of sustain? Just my 2 cents. Great work!! ------------------------------------ Latest SystematicfeatDJRushX1's Cloudcasts on Mixcloud This is a new track I am working on. It is still unfinished and un mastered. However, was looking for some feedback. Each song I have been doing as of late takes on a different approach from the last. This track is at 140 bpm, I didn't want to make a dubstep track but somewhat filled with bass. Yes, you are seeing this correctly, it is a Katy Perry Reboot. I have nothing against her but in most normal situations I would not listen to her music. The coincidance was the track was pretty much already set in motion and wanted a acapella to go over it. I stumbled upon this and it seemed to fit the mood. What I am curious is, is this track to stable enough on the bass end. Is it to much? Is the track in itself to repetitive? Guess I am just looking for an overall opinion. Any feedback greatly appreciated!

yeah its ok, the vocal is good quality actually did you do much processing on it?
i think the drums are bit a bland maybe - the snare isnt really cutting through
im kinda of waiting for it to kick into some mad wobble type bass or something as seems to be par for the course with this style

another new kinda techno one, comments??

Thanks everyone for the comments - much appreciated.


Evolve 140 cheers - I am planning to send it out to some labels when finished and we will see if anything happens.

Thanks

Will give the tracks a listien when not at work

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Originally posted by evo8 yeah its ok, the vocal is good quality actually did you do much processing on it? i think the drums are bit a bland maybe - the snare isnt really cutting through im kinda of waiting for it to kick into some mad wobble type bass or something as seems to be par for the course with this style

Thanks Evo for the feedback.Yea, did ALOT of processing on the vocals.
I agree on the snare, did some rework and pushed it up with EQ. And yes...there will be wobbles, I said the same thing but am not to good with sound synth on dubstep and a friend is helping me out with it. Cheers!

Pretty dope sound mate and very well mixed - just pleasing. I agree maybe some hard edged parts to offset the rest could be good - for example around 1.45 when it goes a bit trance breakish in the synths there.

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Originally posted by scorpradio Chris, Really dig the vibe you are portraying with this. IMHO it has a Daft feel to it and a great "swing" touch and the vocals [well we all know what that does to a track] I cannot really give any negative feedback in all honesty, this track is solid. I will say that the piano is a little to straight and narrow. Maybe some added delay or a small bit of sustain? Just my 2 cents. Great work!! ------------------------------------ Latest SystematicfeatDJRushX1's Cloudcasts on Mixcloud This is a new track I am working on. It is still unfinished and un mastered. However, was looking for some feedback. Each song I have been doing as of late takes on a different approach from the last. This track is at 140 bpm, I didn't want to make a dubstep track but somewhat filled with bass. Yes, you are seeing this correctly, it is a Katy Perry Reboot. I have nothing against her but in most normal situations I would not listen to her music. The coincidance was the track was pretty much already set in motion and wanted a acapella to go over it. I stumbled upon this and it seemed to fit the mood. What I am curious is, is this track to stable enough on the bass end. Is it to much? Is the track in itself to repetitive? Guess I am just looking for an overall opinion. Any feedback greatly appreciated!

thanks for your feedback appreciate it

i think yours is not bad - keep working at it

I like what you did with the vocals

i feel like it needs a proper bass line, what you've got now sounds half way between a low string sound and bass

if you look on the freq analyzer you can see its quite thin in places, like around 200 hz and also missing high end where the hats should be. comparing your track to a pro one in this way is really useful if your still learning (like i am too)

i think the kick coul;d be fatter, and you could experiment with layering snares/claps for a more interesting texture

for example just on my wip i have 1 clap, 1 finger snap and a snare. The main clap is an old skool garage clap for character - then there's a low passed snare for bottom end. added to that is the finger snap pulled forward before the beat. also the second snap on each bar has a shorter release time for small variation.

these are treated separately then all 3 are bussed together and compressed

Definitely read up on compression - things like your bottom end of the track need to be consistent in volume and loads of other uses

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