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Posted by evo8 on Nov-18-2015 21:42:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceLover007
Here we go guys just a demo for now but_still thinking about adding some smooth and catchy female vocal to it but you can hear the concept already



Darek


i kinda like it Darek, has a nice feel. Not sure about that saw-ish midbass, maybe something smoother would be better for the feel of the track?
i dont think the piano is necessary, theres kinda too many things going on then


Posted by evo8 on Nov-18-2015 21:43:

something deeper again


Posted by Woony on Nov-19-2015 12:48:

quote:
Originally posted by evo8
something deeper again


The kick seems way too big/heavy for that kind of track, it eats up the rest of the track. Also it would make the bass a bit more prominent, which I think is needed for a warm, slow-groover type track.

Made a new track in the last few days, thoughts on the mix? It sounds nice and balanced to me but I don't have actual monitors

https://soundcloud.com/woony/untitled96


Posted by Oakenshield on Nov-19-2015 13:59:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceLover007
Here we go guys just a demo for now but_still thinking about adding some smooth and catchy female vocal to it but you can hear the concept already



Darek


i like the idear and when the piano comes in it gives it a flowing feel BUT the percusion does not seem to drive the track infact i think that it drowns out some of the main elements.

cut back on ur perc and bring the piano up, less is more(yes im guilty of this )


Posted by Oakenshield on Nov-19-2015 14:06:

quote:
Originally posted by evo8
something deeper again



i love this reminds me so much of my daniel poole records the kick needs to have a top though you could add a short hat for the kick
so it tics like a clock and roll of a small amount of the sub.

this reminds me so much of my youth lol


Posted by Oakenshield on Nov-19-2015 14:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
Great calls.

I've changed the bass and the drop, is this more what you had in mind?
EDIT I just made the riser up to the drop less epic and it seems to really make the drop more impactful.




i like the bass on this when it drops but it could do with more growl and bringing up in level.


Posted by evo8 on Nov-19-2015 19:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Woony
The kick seems way too big/heavy for that kind of track, it eats up the rest of the track. Also it would make the bass a bit more prominent, which I think is needed for a warm, slow-groover type track.

Made a new track in the last few days, thoughts on the mix? It sounds nice and balanced to me but I don't have actual monitors

https://soundcloud.com/woony/untitled96


your track doesnt seem to be there?

for mine, yeah i probably overdid the kick, i forgot to check on my monitors!


Posted by evo8 on Nov-19-2015 19:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Oakenshield
i love this reminds me so much of my daniel poole records the kick needs to have a top though you could add a short hat for the kick
so it tics like a clock and roll of a small amount of the sub.

this reminds me so much of my youth lol


cool! thanks for the fb


Posted by Woony on Nov-19-2015 20:15:

Oh right, I forgot to use the private share link - https://soundcloud.com/woony/untitled96/s-a9yjD


Posted by AlphaStarred on Nov-19-2015 21:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Woony
Oh right, I forgot to use the private share link - https://soundcloud.com/woony/untitled96/s-a9yjD


It sounds pretty good, but you're only using 3 patterns for the entire track, making it very repetitive rather quickly. It could work as a dj tool, but I'd try adding some more percussion and some more variation.


Posted by Oakenshield on Nov-19-2015 21:40:



not sure if im now making it worse haha


Posted by TranceLover007 on Nov-19-2015 22:31:

quote:
Originally posted by evo8
i kinda like it Darek, has a nice feel. Not sure about that saw-ish midbass, maybe something smoother would be better for the feel of the track?
i dont think the piano is necessary, theres kinda too many things going on then


Yeah, I'm going for progressive Chill-House vibe with emotional and catchy sub-melodic theme so this piano help me create this desired effect - as far as bass line, I will check if slight different take on it would properly coexist with everything around - thank man!!!

Darek


Posted by TranceLover007 on Nov-19-2015 22:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Oakenshield
i like the idear and when the piano comes in it gives it a flowing feel BUT the percusion does not seem to drive the track infact i think that it drowns out some of the main elements.

cut back on ur perc and bring the piano up, less is more(yes im guilty of this )


Appreciate your honest opinion man - at this point, as far as drums concern, I wasn't looking for a drive (as compere to Trance) as much as for give a sense of smooth chilling rhythm/vibe in this production.

I definitely going after nice and balance progressive structure and sound which will have to evolve over the time -> and at the same time I believe that female vocal would spice up this track even more by adding this extra spark to it lol.

Cheers,

Darek


Posted by TranceLover007 on Nov-19-2015 22:53:

quote:
Originally posted by evo8
something deeper again



It has some nice flavor to it, me like it so far -> also I think that slightly different kick would do more justice for this production with those particular sound/s selection you already have -> as far as vocal?, works nicely as it is in your structure.

Got some potential even in EDM area lol

Darek


Posted by TranceLover007 on Nov-19-2015 23:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Oakenshield


not sure if im now making it worse haha


Lets start finally with this Trance track lol - it has some nice melodic development and drives really well (need to be mix/mastered properly in order to meet today standards) - I would suggest (if you care) to start your track from around 1:00 mark till 3:15 then again from 4:15 till the end - the rest is not needed (in my view).

If is done the right way then you could have some really strong production on the hand

Cheers,

Darek


Posted by Woony on Nov-19-2015 23:51:

quote:
Originally posted by AlphaStarred
It sounds pretty good, but you're only using 3 patterns for the entire track, making it very repetitive rather quickly. It could work as a dj tool, but I'd try adding some more percussion and some more variation.


Yeah, I tried.. but couldn't really come up with anything that didn't make the track worse. I'm trying to get better at more diverse programming but I hate this micro-editing kind of shit so i'd rather iterate fast than spend forever on one track.


Posted by MSZ on Nov-20-2015 00:32:

quote:
Originally posted by evo8
something deeper again



Nice one :3 Listening to your last wips there seems to be lack of definition & seperation in your sounds and mix, if you're going for that then dont mind that comment because I can also respect that; it sounds true to the older stuff this way and you might be referencing those sounds currently.


Posted by evo8 on Nov-20-2015 21:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Woony
Oh right, I forgot to use the private share link - https://soundcloud.com/woony/untitled96/s-a9yjD


like it, grooves really nicely. Its tough to add stuff without crowding the mix, one of the challenges of music making


Posted by evo8 on Nov-20-2015 21:38:

quote:
Originally posted by MSZ
Nice one :3 Listening to your last wips there seems to be lack of definition & seperation in your sounds and mix, if you're going for that then dont mind that comment because I can also respect that; it sounds true to the older stuff this way and you might be referencing those sounds currently.


yeah im not looking for "loud" for this style really - just something relaxing on the ear
I use a tape plugin on the master to soften the mix overall

this mix however, think i overdid the low end which is effectively making the mids/highs sound quieter, will get back to this tomorrow night hopefully!


Posted by evo8 on Nov-20-2015 21:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Woony
Yeah, I tried.. but couldn't really come up with anything that didn't make the track worse. I'm trying to get better at more diverse programming but I hate this micro-editing kind of shit so i'd rather iterate fast than spend forever on one track.


yep - im with you on working fast. Your sound will develop as you go. i think your on the right track, less is more, imo anyway


Posted by Richard Butler on Nov-22-2015 20:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Oakenshield


not sure if im now making it worse haha


I think this is a really good track and better for your alterations


Posted by Richard Butler on Nov-22-2015 20:38:

quote:
Originally posted by evo8
something deeper again



I really like it when the vocal and hats come in

I would say lets hear little echoey peeks of the vocal before this

Mix could be a little clearer it's slightly woody


Posted by Richard Butler on Nov-22-2015 20:42:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceLover007
Here we go guys just a demo for now but_still thinking about adding some smooth and catchy female vocal to it but you can hear the concept already



Darek


Your best track in a while I think but you can make the piano melody more enriching by adding another note or 2, I will post up what I mean shortly;

I was thinking a piano melody along these lines but of course it's your baby,


Posted by Richard Butler on Nov-22-2015 21:00:

Anyway I went away and re-worked the drop for colours 3, this is about as good as I can do really



Posted by Oakenshield on Nov-22-2015 22:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
Anyway I went away and re-worked the drop for colours 3, this is about as good as I can do really





i like that only critic is the transition as you have all ur elements in the breakdown to the single note build its to servere make its change more subtle imo


btw any idears what else mine might need? some may not like the arrangement being as long but hald of it wont be played due to mix in/out


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