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Posted by Looney4Clooney on Nov-23-2013 09:45:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
No, but you also don't save up a hundred grand to buy that Ferrari and then put diesel in it, do you?

Raphie arguably has one of the best setups on TA. If anyone has the kit to warrant being concerned with cables, it's him.




What the fuck is going on with the health issues recently? I thought you Canadians were meant to be the healthy outdoors types. And you have free healthcare just like your commonwealth bretherin (although arguably better Dentists). Can't you just greenscreen it and superimpose yourself in a video of eagles mating?


because i want to look like I was a uboat commander and it is a red screen for that sort shot. The problem arises in that people did not think ahead and realize that we need more footage of uboats. Maybe i will do a 3d model or something.

health care in canada is fine when you get sick but they have no help for anything preventative or psychiatric. Its kinda fucked in that there are thousands of unemployed doctor s that can'r find work. Still better than the USA were getting sick means giving that kidney a second pass.

And although messy, like a real studio should be, I can do anything were as Raphie is stuck to mastering shit music. It is fucking messy tho. the problem is that a maid won't know were to put shit and i am just not able to keep up. I guess the scope of my ideas is so large that the wake is too much for a mere man to take care off.


Posted by tehlord on Nov-23-2013 11:10:

quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik
This is my Tetra, bitches. My studio wins.




What no Prophet 12?


Posted by Raphie on Nov-23-2013 14:38:

yes the 300's stay, upgrading to the new ones is to expensive with not enough to gain, as I mainly use them as B monitors now. And the improvement is marginal/taste.

Have been looking ar vandamme blueline studio and requested a quote for 4 db25>xlr snakes, 6 db25 <> db25 snakes together with 40 tt patchcords 1ft. will probably again be another 1.200GBP and together with the TASCAM DSD recorder, it's going to be an expensive December again.


Posted by cryophonik on Nov-23-2013 17:03:

quote:
Originally posted by tehlord
What no Prophet 12?



Naw, I just picked this up because I got a good deal on it and because it's small enough to fit in my setup without having to expand my studio footprint. I really wanted a P12 desktop, but the prototype that Dave Smith has previewed looks a little too barren on the front panel for my taste. Actually, I think I'm lusting over the Nord Rack 4 more than the P12, based on the demos I've heard.


Posted by Raphie on Nov-23-2013 17:30:

quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik
Naw, I just picked this up because I got a good deal on it and because it's small enough to fit in my setup without having to expand my studio footprint. I really wanted a P12 desktop, but the prototype that Dave Smith has previewed looks a little too barren on the front panel for my taste. Actually, I think I'm lusting over the Nord Rack 4 more than the P12, based on the demos I've heard.
i went exactly the oppositie way.
Had the nord 4r and traded it up to a P12, never looked back, the 4R is like massive in a box, for me it added nothing compared to VSTis
The P12 is just wow, the desktop version looks ugly though


Posted by DJ RANN on Nov-23-2013 18:40:

quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik
This is my Tetra, bitches. My studio wins.



Yuck; Hosa cables

quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik
Have been looking ar vandamme blueline studio and requested a quote for 4 db25>xlr snakes, 6 db25 <> db25 snakes together with 40 tt patchcords 1ft. will probably again be another 1.200GBP and together with the TASCAM DSD recorder, it's going to be an expensive December again.



Raphie, you're a commercial business right? Ask for a trade account with trade. I used to work for them and can give you whatever advice you need about to spec them. By the way, make sure you get as specific as you possibly can;

Tail lengths, pliosil tails, numbers, labeling (i.e. "input snake 1" or "master outs 1-16") type of DB connectors (they have the really nice high quality metal ones etc), exact lengths etc.

The studio grade multicore they do is the industry standard at every great studio in the world. Abbey, Air, Olympic, Sarm, The Royal Opera House, Metropolis, Peter Gabriels real word, Brit Row.

Interesting Story: The Old Decca Studio in Hampstead London (where I'm from) was again up for lease after being the English National Opera rehearsal space for the last 25 years. It had the first gen of Van Damme cable installed and the owner of VD went to check out the place and found that after 25+ years of abuse all the tie lines, all the connections were still perfect.


Posted by Raphie on Nov-23-2013 20:08:

Yes, pro, got customers, invoice and get paid.
I'm working with a vndamme configurator atm, which includes all you mentioned
I'm working with Digidesign Digisnakes atm, but epscially the XLR snake soldering is really bad (the db25's are ok though) and also some HOSA db25's which work fine, but are low end. they are really strong molded, haven't busted 1 yet, but just want homogene wiring all along. So vandamme blue it's gonna be 16 snakes in total, 96 patchpoints and full direct out / tape return from my SSL Alphalink
Only thing that's lacking now is a decent website, but i just can't be asked.Have decent business from word of mouth, but I guess I could do more promotion.



quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
Yuck; Hosa cables



Raphie, you're a commercial business right? Ask for a trade account with trade. I used to work for them and can give you whatever advice you need about to spec them. By the way, make sure you get as specific as you possibly can;

Tail lengths, pliosil tails, numbers, labeling (i.e. "input snake 1" or "master outs 1-16") type of DB connectors (they have the really nice high quality metal ones etc), exact lengths etc.

The studio grade multicore they do is the industry standard at every great studio in the world. Abbey, Air, Olympic, Sarm, The Royal Opera House, Metropolis, Peter Gabriels real word, Brit Row.

Interesting Story: The Old Decca Studio in Hampstead London (where I'm from) was again up for lease after being the English National Opera rehearsal space for the last 25 years. It had the first gen of Van Damme cable installed and the owner of VD went to check out the place and found that after 25+ years of abuse all the tie lines, all the connections were still perfect.


Posted by DJ RANN on Nov-23-2013 20:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Raphie
Yes, pro, got customers, invoice and get paid.
I'm working with a vndamme configurator atm, which includes all you mentioned
I'm working with Digidesign Digisnakes atm, but epscially the XLR snake soldering is really bad (the db25's are ok though) and also some HOSA db25's which work fine, but are low end. they are really strong molded, haven't busted 1 yet, but just want homogene wiring all along. So vandamme blue it's gonna be 16 snakes in total, 96 patchpoints and full direct out / tape return from my SSL Alphalink
Only thing that's lacking now is a decent website, but i just can't be asked.Have decent business from word of mouth, but I guess I could do more promotion.


Sounds like you're going about the right way! The digisnakes aren't actually that bad, they're just not really that great, and there's always been supply problems with them and even though Digi aren't meant to, the techs there tell people to buy Van Damme as they know they're better and Digi don't get connection issues to troubleshoot.

One thong to be careful of (even though they are usually good on this) make sure you supply in writing/get it back confirmed regarding the pinout and/or what your connections are. Sometimes when these things get complex a mistake can be made and if you have what you wanted in writing and signed off, and they supply anything different, it;s on them to fix it and that shipping can add up


Posted by Raphie on Nov-23-2013 20:28:

Yep, I'll write my own statement of work, next to the configurator output and have them sign both


Posted by cryophonik on Nov-23-2013 21:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Raphie
i went exactly the oppositie way.
Had the nord 4r and traded it up to a P12, never looked back, the 4R is like massive in a box, for me it added nothing compared to VSTis
The P12 is just wow, the desktop version looks ugly though


Yeah, I'd love to have the full P12, but I don't have room for another keyboard, so it would have to replace my Virus TI2, which is my main controller and very integral (no pun intended) to my whole studio/workflow. I don't really plan on buying a NR4 either, since I agree that it would be redundant with my other VAs (Virus, PC3X, and soft synths). Some of the NL4 demos really do impress me, though. Most of the P12 demos that I've heard are pretty bad TBH, but most of them seem to be made by gearslutz-types who only want to make boring-ass drones with it. I'd sorta like to get my hands on one, but then again, it would probably reignite my GAS.

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
Yuck; Hosa cables


Ha! I KNEW you were going to say something about that!

quote:
Originally posted by Raphie
...and also some HOSA db25's which work fine, but are low end. they are really strong molded, haven't busted 1 yet,...


Same here. I mostly use Hosa cables for synths and other "permanent" installations (i.e., where I'm not unplugging/plugging them in repeatedly) and have never had one go bad on me. I've also A/B'ed and null tested them against my more expensive cables and there is absolutely no detectable difference in sound quality. For my bass, guitars, microphones, etc. I use better cables.


Posted by DJ RANN on Nov-23-2013 22:22:

quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik
Ha! I KNEW you were going to say something about that!
I mostly use Hosa cables for synths and other "permanent" installations (i.e., where I'm not unplugging/plugging them in repeatedly) and have never had one go bad on me. I've also A/B'ed and null tested them against my more expensive cables and there is absolutely no detectable difference in sound quality. For my bass, guitars, microphones, etc. I use better cables.


Lol, sorry Dave, couldn't resist!

For short runs where and the fact you're obviously doing smart things like keeping your power cables separate, don't have grounding issues etc and not plugging them in and out all the time, Hosa are decent to work fine. EDM synths aren't timbre crucial anyway (unlike say a Violin recorded with vintage neumann mic through some boutique pre) so there's no point fussing.

Guitars are actually really crucial though. On some studio projects we literally were asked to try different cables to see what the effect was and it was quite astounding how different 25ft instrument cables can sound when A/B'd.


Posted by UrbanNinja on Nov-25-2013 05:19:

Treatment time! Gonna make a new thread for halp.


Posted by tehlord on Nov-25-2013 09:23:

Your speaker stands are probably worth as much as my entire studio


Posted by UrbanNinja on Nov-25-2013 10:10:

quote:
Originally posted by tehlord
Your speaker stands are probably worth as much as my entire studio


They went for 400 for both including the ISO's


Posted by Storyteller on Nov-25-2013 10:17:

So they're either stolen or from someone trying to avoid bankruptcy?


Posted by UrbanNinja on Nov-25-2013 10:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Storyteller
So they're either stolen or from someone trying to avoid bankruptcy?



Posted by UrbanNinja on Nov-25-2013 10:59:

quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik
This is my Tetra, bitches. My studio wins.



That tetra looks badass man, I keep getting dreams on tinkering with hardware and looks like i would build a passion like how i did with my blofeld. After treatment it seems that i'll go for the Waldorf Pulse 2.


Posted by cryophonik on Nov-25-2013 19:13:

quote:
Originally posted by UrbanNinja
That tetra looks badass man, I keep getting dreams on tinkering with hardware and looks like i would build a passion like how i did with my blofeld. After treatment it seems that i'll go for the Waldorf Pulse 2.


It's amazing how huge the sound is coming from that little box. Pulse 2 looks like a killer synth, too.


Posted by UrbanNinja on Nov-27-2013 00:44:

quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik
It's amazing how huge the sound is coming from that little box. Pulse 2 looks like a killer synth, too.


I'm gonna replace my M-Audio 25 midi controller with a arturia mini brute or novation bass station 2, which would you get? idk man.


Posted by cryophonik on Nov-27-2013 02:55:

quote:
Originally posted by UrbanNinja
I'm gonna replace my M-Audio 25 midi controller with a arturia mini brute or novation bass station 2, which would you get? idk man.


I haven't used either one, but the MiniBrute looks pretty badass. I'd probably go with that over the BS2 if it was me.


Posted by UrbanNinja on Nov-27-2013 02:57:

quote:
Originally posted by cryophonik
I haven't used either one, but the MiniBrute looks pretty badass.


Same prices and same number of keys! I'm going topsy turvy here.


Posted by tehlord on Nov-27-2013 09:50:

Personally I would avoid Arturia like the plague. There are many reports of failing Minibrutes, I have had my own experience with their badly made products (minilab) as have several of my composing peers.

It's not that the products are badly made actually, it's that they are badly conceived, unfinished AND their support is as bad as support can be. Everything they release is beta, and never gets finished.


Posted by cryophonik on Nov-27-2013 17:13:

quote:
Originally posted by tehlord
Personally I would avoid Arturia like the plague. There are many reports of failing Minibrutes, I have had my own experience with their badly made products (minilab) as have several of my composing peers.

It's not that the products are badly made actually, it's that they are badly conceived, unfinished AND their support is as bad as support can be. Everything they release is beta, and never gets finished.


Yeah, like I said, I'd go with the Bass Station 2.


Posted by Raphie on Nov-27-2013 20:04:

had my vandamme snakes quoted today....
damn.... they are EXPENSIVE
for the db25 snakes I for sure stay with Digidesign/Avid Digisnakes I ordered a few more so everything DB25 <>DB25 is now Digisnakes
I'm thinking of ordering vandamme only for the chain, but that sets me back 400GBP / 600$ just for 2 custom snakes.
Im pretty sure they won't give me a $600 better sound over digisnakes (got rid of the HOSA snakes now)

So If can resist it will stay AVID all the way, otherwise the vandammes will for sure look the dogs bullocks, but not sure they will actually make me take different mix decissions.


Posted by Raphie on Nov-28-2013 12:37:

Things can move fast, found a cheaper dealer today and cabling is ordered
Whole chain will vandamme Blue starting next wednesday
Also got a new hoster, now I just nee to find a webdesigner

Current mastering setup
http://www.dropboxmastering.com/gear.htm


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