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i update as required.

and your method would be called amateur.

there are 2 different ways you want to back up. Incremental and then hot-swappable. That is why i have the drives. If anything happens at any time, i am up in running in 5 minutes. But if all you do is copy bad data, then there is no point really.

and i use raid 5.

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Originally posted by Raphie, L4C & EchoSystem

What the fuck are you lot talking about?

1, UPS usually serve one function: Allow a battery backup should the power drop below a certain threshold. Some, like the one that is 2 foot from me now, also have rudimentary surge protection and act as a various amp multiplug outlet, but other than that that's all the do.

So I don't know why you think that there's any "power conditioning" as such.

Want proof? The top of the line UPS unit from APC (biggest company) only specs out at 5% THD. That's the same threshold for a normal household socket. The threshold for "distortion" in audio is 3% THD and every power conditioner out there aims to be far lower than that.

Also, the voltage steps on most UPS are +/-10v, Cheap Power conditioners =/-5v and expensive ones or regenerators are +/-1v.

2, In line capacitance is not power conditioning. It just stops unwanted oscillation of voltage. Nothing more.

3, Products like powerplant do not make audio dull (unless all this time you've been perceiving the noise and coloration caused by dirty power, emi, rfi, etc as pleasing to your ears). The studio I work for just invested $40,000 in a massive industrial version of that to power the whole building. It's not smoke and mirrors - it completely decouples you from all the dirty power and equipment feedback from other other users. They basically take a massive 400v feed, change it to DC then generate a pure and pristine AC feed again.

4, Cheap power conditioners are not worth the $30 of components in the $200 box. They are nothing more than glorified multiplugs with the convenience of rack mounting.

5, Balanced power regulators, Hz rectifiers, Isolation transformers and Voltage regulators are worth every penny - and by this I mean the expensive ones.

The PS audio unit that Raphie had, does <0.8% THD, and it one of the best units out there for clean power and isolation.

however the ideal setup would be

PS Audio generator ---> Power Balancer. That way, you get the lowest possible THD, no EMI, RFI, No DC, and then have fully balanced power so no noise and a much higher noise floor.

So wuts the best power conditioner you can get?

APC are rubbish. That is a poor example.

You should have a UPS regardless, and a decent one will take care of pretty much everything and it also comes with insurance. More bang for your buck. I mean at least start with cyberpower in the 300 -500 range. APC don't even provide an actual pure sine wave.

The furmann power conditioners, i mean the high end AVR or their version of it boasts 120 +/- 5 V that isn't 5% 5 V

THe most fragile component in your studio is your computer. UPS tend to deal with computers. They just have more experience , sell way more units and have more money for RnD.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN WOW!, Looooooong time man. Welcome back. Where you been hiding? Fuck, with Echosystem, MNinja, Lolo and Alanzo posting it's like the early 2000's up in here

i just got bored of talking about music eventually and spent a few years actually making it! haha.

and to make this thread relevant again, here's my dirty studio.
lol

i use this for power conditioning... http://www.monstercable.com/productdisplay.asp?pin=2140

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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney APC are rubbish.

Every datacenter I have worked in begs to differ.

Sure, they might not be competitive in the $100 range, but at that price level it's really just a debate of who's shit smells the least.

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Originally posted by mysticalninja i just got bored of talking about music eventually and spent a few years actually making it! haha. and to make this thread relevant again, here's my dirty studio. i use this for power conditioning... http://www.monstercable.com/productdisplay.asp?pin=2140

Lol, I love studios like that. I'd be worried about roaches and shit but you know when you see a studio like that, it's one that get some serious use.

Back on to the whole power condition thing, Echo is right, all of the consumer ones that are dirt cheap are all shit.

However, I'm going to resurrect the power conditioner thread from a while ago so as not to pollute this one too much.....

Nice sherlock bro. Blaze one for me

Gonna build me a 2U Double width rack box to go where my ghetto shelf is right now to mount the Saffire and maybe some outboard in. Maybe a Lexicon PCM and TC Fireworx.

Got some space on the rack over on the right for moar synths now too.

And I know, the photo editing is so badass.

Wow, I like this, it's exactly how I would picture my studio when I have my fulltime job.

excluding the lava lamp ofcourse

When did you get a Saffire? I thought you were using a Steiny interface.

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Originally posted by Deillon Wow, I like this, it's exactly how I would picture my studio when I have my fulltime job. excluding the lava lamp ofcourse

Yeah but lava lamps have been scientifically proven to add analogue.

Tru story.

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Originally posted by cryophonik When did you get a Saffire? I thought you were using a Steiny interface.

I got rid of the MR to downsize the studio to sell the apartment, then I didn't sell the apartment so bought a load of stuff back and that's what was available when I needed an interface fast. For the money it's not bad, but I think when I do move I'll go back to a couple of MR's or maybe a UFX.

Apartment? Wash your mouth out. You meant Flat.

Did you sell the Hs80's as well? Too big for the smaller Flat?

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Originally posted by DJ RANN Apartment? Wash your mouth out. You meant Flat. Did you sell the Hs80's as well? Too big for the smaller Flat?

Haha

I was just saving the yanks a visit to the dictionary.

And yeah, the HS80s were way too big for this place so I got these little Tannoys for the time being (they are most excellent for the money, but the K701's compliment them very well).

Once the legal issues are out the way and I can sell the flat and move they will be the first thing to be upgraded.


The first thing of many.

What happened? I remember you were going to sell and move? Did they fuck you about and now you're suing them?

I'm going to make a new studio soon when the work is done on the house. Going to wire the house for sound too so patch the decks/studio to anywhere, even the garden. That'll please my neighbours

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Originally posted by DJ RANN What happened? I remember you were going to sell and move? Did they fuck you about and now you're suing them? I'm going to make a new studio soon when the work is done on the house. Going to wire the house for sound too so patch the decks/studio to anywhere, even the garden. That'll please my neighbours

I sold the place late last year and we were supposed to complete March this year except for a lease boundary issue to crop up at the last moment. This was due to a fuck up by the solicitor I used to buy the place.

So now I'm having to sue them in order for the money to be made to the freeholder to make the necessary changes so that I can try and sell it again next year.

If I could get away with killing, I would do it.

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Originally posted by Raphie

loving the shiny shiny .....but im guessing you could do with a few more basstraps in a room that size

i was just thinking that actually (as well as admiring the gear)

especially having your speakers quite close to the wall, it would prob be a good idea to get some treatment behind the speakers, and then mirroring it on the back wall for starters imo

The rear wall has 3 megatraps of 100*60*60 each. On the ceiling are 4 basstraps too and you see 2gik monster traps here in the pics, might make some pics of them later, but there not so sexy as the gear

Very nice selection of gear Raphie, but i disagree with placement of monitors, their to close to the wall and can use isolation pads under them.

The K&H o 300 are designed for wall mount
They can even hang on the wall (bracketts already being intergrated in the design) and still perform as intended. In my case they are placed on load calibrated sorbothane.

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Originally posted by Raphie The K&H o 300 are designed for wall mount They can even hang on the wall (bracketts already being intergrated in the design) and still perform as intended. In my case they are placed on load calibrated sorbothane.

Really? thats awesome! Sorry man didn't know.

Got the desk and argosy stands are coming next week so I decided to find out what the focals would sound like on my other stands which i used for spinning. The result, wow purely amazing. After that, treatment! what else.




I moved all my dj gear to my room so i can use traktor with my mac pro ad run at the lowest latency with out problems,

Ok raphie I'm curious though - do you get a flat response in there? I've got around 15 large traps in my room (room is defo too small though) and the low end is still far from flat . Have you tested it? Room eq wizard is cool.

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