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Need a flavor from you guys. Need your ears
This is part of a wip I am doing but I am really having a tough time with this vocal stem. Is it me or am I getting a serious amount of backend noise.
What I am hearing is a clicking noise and a almost "sub" hit after each pronunciation.
I dont have monitors and use cans for mixing and this is seriously annoying me. Is it me?

Also, when I add reverb to the stem the sub sound really is pronounced.

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Originally posted by Trancelover03591 Probably going to work with a vocalist on something soon. Possibly this one (that's why the breakdowns are kind of sparse) if I determine if it is worth finishing. Also, would be more than happy to collab with someone on the production/mixing for equal credit. Feedback?

Great song. The only two things that stood out for me was the attack on the main cho synth, for me it sounds a little too clicky, and the choice of sound for the cho melody synth that comes in around 2:28 for me sounds a little cheesy? Mix is great though! Hope you get a good vocalist that will do it justice!

Btw, where's the piano sound from, sounds really nice?

Re: WIP feedback

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Originally posted by madmuso Hey guys, heres a song I did a while ago, am thinking about reworking it to bring it up to date. Im so used to hearing this the way it is (because of listening to it a million times) that im finding it hard to get creative with it again. Ive lost that "fresh" listen aspect. So im after mainly songwriting, arrangement sound design advice, etc. Not really mix related stuff cause its a rough mix. Thanks guys,

not bad, wouldnt be into vocally stuff like this personally, a lot of stuff going on there at the same time but youve managed to get all seperated as best as possible i think

would like to hear a dub version

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Originally posted by scorpradio Need a flavor from you guys. Need your ears This is part of a wip I am doing but I am really having a tough time with this vocal stem. Is it me or am I getting a serious amount of backend noise. What I am hearing is a clicking noise and a almost "sub" hit after each pronunciation. I dont have monitors and use cans for mixing and this is seriously annoying me. Is it me? Also, when I add reverb to the stem the sub sound really is pronounced.

im hearing distortion at certain points, not really hearing any sub, anyway just highpass the sample??

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Originally posted by Trancelover03591 Probably going to work with a vocalist on something soon. Possibly this one (that's why the breakdowns are kind of sparse) if I determine if it is worth finishing. Also, would be more than happy to collab with someone on the production/mixing for equal credit. Feedback?

a little cheesy for my tastes but not bad. be careful on the bass, i think you could a tiny bit more low end out of it

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Originally posted by Storyteller A complete overhaul of the remix I posted several weeks ago. Not really happy about this yet. Some parts progress too little and others too fast making it feel a bit incoherent to me. But I know where I want to go with it so I'm guessing it will all be alright. Some feedback would be nice.

Nice chilled vibe but I have to say I'm finding the clickyness in the kick a bit uncomfortable.
Would you consider adding another element just to make it a bit more characterful? Something like the occasional vocal hit? For me it does need something extra.

Nice soothing synths as ever.

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Originally posted by Trancelover03591 Probably going to work with a vocalist on something soon. Possibly this one (that's why the breakdowns are kind of sparse) if I determine if it is worth finishing. Also, would be more than happy to collab with someone on the production/mixing for equal credit. Feedback?

Mate I admire the work in this but it doesn't grab me in any way apart from the first piano part which h is quite nice. I imagine this feedback is a bit of bummer but I'd rather be honest so you can throw your energy into something better. My last WIP here was not good so as ever many of us are constantly in the process of elation then coming down to earth.

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Originally posted by scorpradio Need a flavor from you guys. Need your ears This is part of a wip I am doing but I am really having a tough time with this vocal stem. Is it me or am I getting a serious amount of backend noise. What I am hearing is a clicking noise and a almost "sub" hit after each pronunciation. I dont have monitors and use cans for mixing and this is seriously annoying me. Is it me? Also, when I add reverb to the stem the sub sound really is pronounced.

This is very familiar territory. Those back end clicks and noise are a common problem.
First thing I do with any vocal is get the scissors out and zoom right in to remove as much of this as possible BUT I find I then often need to automate the volume because some extraneous noise always remains and if you chop it out you often get a bad click, so I will do something like a fast volume slope on any remaining issues.

Then it's time to eq - there's a fair bit of 'the room' in this take, but personally I prefer this to a totally bone dry vocal.

Does this help at all?

Re: WIP feedback

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Originally posted by madmuso Hey guys, heres a song I did a while ago, am thinking about reworking it to bring it up to date. Im so used to hearing this the way it is (because of listening to it a million times) that im finding it hard to get creative with it again. Ive lost that "fresh" listen aspect. So im after mainly songwriting, arrangement sound design advice, etc. Not really mix related stuff cause its a rough mix. Thanks guys,

Mate this is just very like something we see on the Eurovision song contest, perhaps the entry from a Romania or Belarus, it sounds about 15 years out of date.

Sorry mate I suspect you have some sort of deep attachment to It, but my advice would be off it and move on.

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Originally posted by evo8 a little cheesy for my tastes but not bad. be careful on the bass, i think you could a tiny bit more low end out of it

Do you mean put a little more low end in or take some out?

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Originally posted by Richard Butler Mate I admire the work in this but it doesn't grab me in any way apart from the first piano part which h is quite nice. I imagine this feedback is a bit of bummer but I'd rather be honest so you can throw your energy into something better. My last WIP here was not good so as ever many of us are constantly in the process of elation then coming down to earth.

Not a bummer at all! I appreciate honest feedback.

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Originally posted by Trancelover03591 Probably going to work with a vocalist on something soon. Possibly this one (that's why the breakdowns are kind of sparse) if I determine if it is worth finishing. Also, would be more than happy to collab with someone on the production/mixing for equal credit. Feedback?

Just one suggestion: add vocal to it before I will comment on it - this way everything else (like all of your sounds/instruments) will have to sit slightly different way so final effect will be effected.

I like it so far

Darek

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Originally posted by scorpradio Need a flavor from you guys. Need your ears This is part of a wip I am doing but I am really having a tough time with this vocal stem. Is it me or am I getting a serious amount of backend noise. What I am hearing is a clicking noise and a almost "sub" hit after each pronunciation. I dont have monitors and use cans for mixing and this is seriously annoying me. Is it me? Also, when I add reverb to the stem the sub sound really is pronounced.

Find a specific frequency where this is happening, if this is constant/same range along this whole vocal recording then you could remove/undercut if not then you get ready for some bumpy ride

Let me/us know in what freq this persist.

Edit: It will be some amount of work if this is all over this freq. but you could (if you are familiar with Adobe Audition software) to mask it to some extend.

Check this one out: Link



Cheers,

Darek

Re: Re: WIP feedback

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Originally posted by evo8 not bad, wouldnt be into vocally stuff like this personally, a lot of stuff going on there at the same time but youve managed to get all seperated as best as possible i think would like to hear a dub version

I'm not sure if I already comment on this but anyway: first work with your vocal - is this really clean recording? if yes I would like to expose more in your track, make is stand out more (you push it to far back for my taste) two, upgrade some of your key instruments sounds to up today ones to make your music more interesting/catchy.

Darek

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Originally posted by TranceLover007 Find a specific frequency where this is happening, if this is constant/same range along this whole vocal recording then you could remove/undercut if not then you get ready for some bumpy ride Let me/us know in what freq this persist. Edit: It will be some amount of work if this is all over this freq. but you could (if you are familiar with Adobe Audition software) to mask it to some extend. Cheers, Darek

Thanks Richard & Darek.....yea, this is going to be tough. Appreciate the feedback.

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Originally posted by scorpradio Thanks Richard & Darek.....yea, this is going to be tough. Appreciate the feedback.

Sorry, I was late with my link edit lol, here we go, for simple modification:


Vocal Cleanup

Or this one more work involve but me be enough for you to get is clean up to the point you will be satisfied:

Repair Vocal Effect

Darek

Re: Re: WIP feedback

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Originally posted by Richard Butler Mate this is just very like something we see on the Eurovision song contest, perhaps the entry from a Romania or Belarus, it sounds about 15 years out of date. Sorry mate I suspect you have some sort of deep attachment to It, but my advice would be off it and move on.

Mate, no need to apologise, the older I get the less attached I get to my music which I think is healthy. Your Eurovision comment made me laugh! Pisser!

So, is it the production that's out of date, or both the song and production?

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Originally posted by TranceLover007 Sorry, I was late with my link edit lol, here we go, for simple modification: Vocal Cleanup Or this one more work involve but me be enough for you to get is clean up to the point you will be satisfied: Repair Vocal Effect Darek

Cheers Darek, that should do quite well!

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Originally posted by Trancelover03591 Probably going to work with a vocalist on something soon. Possibly this one (that's why the breakdowns are kind of sparse) if I determine if it is worth finishing. Also, would be more than happy to collab with someone on the production/mixing for equal credit. Feedback?

Caleb, much growth in this track. Well done.
I'd also have to agree, as we all know vocals just take a song to another level (most of the time =OP )

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Originally posted by Seandroid

Ha! Yea, you are riding that wave aren't ya =Op
Love it man...always enjoy hearing your stuff

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Originally posted by scorpradio Ha! Yea, you are riding that trendy wave aren't ya =Op Love it man...always enjoy hearing your stuff

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Originally posted by madmuso Great song. The only two things that stood out for me was the attack on the main cho synth, for me it sounds a little too clicky, and the choice of sound for the cho melody synth that comes in around 2:28 for me sounds a little cheesy? Mix is great though! Hope you get a good vocalist that will do it justice! Btw, where's the piano sound from, sounds really nice?

You know I actually sort of was going for a cheesy vibe at 2:28 as it is an EDM song. The piano is PianoOne vst!

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Originally posted by Trancelover03591 Do you mean put a little more low end in or take some out?

sorry mate, bit of a typo there, yeah i think you could cut a little more out of the low end but its not bad. i think if you played that on a big system tho it could be too much

Re: WIP feedback

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Originally posted by madmuso Hey guys, heres a song I did a while ago, am thinking about reworking it to bring it up to date. Im so used to hearing this the way it is (because of listening to it a million times) that im finding it hard to get creative with it again. Ive lost that "fresh" listen aspect. So im after mainly songwriting, arrangement sound design advice, etc. Not really mix related stuff cause its a rough mix. Thanks guys,

I think it is a bit dated in style but that is just a taste thing. Are the vocals original or from another song? I think you have a lot of good musical elements to work with. I might use the higher second vocals in a few less places. I like it overall.

Ok this is last weeks track totally re-done.

What don't you like?

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