Why Is Everyone NOT Using Ableton!?!!!

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Posted by Brandon H. on Aug-21-2006 04:13:

Why Is Everyone NOT Using Ableton!?!!!

I've just been fully introduced to it and oh my fucking god...its truly amazing!!!

I'm done

Posted by nchs09 on Aug-21-2006 04:14:

i like using the cdj's...

and dont like it when poeple use computers to mix

call me stupid or wtvr... its what i like.

Posted by miamitranceman on Aug-21-2006 04:16:

It's still pretty new. Give it a few years.

Posted by on Aug-21-2006 04:16:

quote:
Originally posted by nchs09
i like using the cdj's...

and dont like it when poeple use computers to mix

call me stupid or wtvr... its what i like.

werrrrd.... I don't mind incorporating it (hence my Nuo4 purchase, but entire sets done in Ableton do NOTHING for me... especially if its live in a club...

Posted by superglo on Aug-21-2006 04:48:

you can swing your mouse around in the air instead of waving a record.

Posted by jmix on Aug-21-2006 05:05:

quote:
Originally posted by superglo
you can swing your mouse around in the air instead of waving a record.

hahah

Posted by mnemonic. on Aug-21-2006 05:08:

i just got ableton, and typical me, i never read the manual, i just sorta went, "ya i'll learn this on my own like i did everything else (photoshop, premiere etc...)" and man, am i frickin lost or what...i need that user guide...cause i am seriously lost...

as for entire sets done in ableton, thats just wrong, whatever happened to "DISC JOCKEY" now its fackin "WAV JOCKEY" ???...and yes i consider a vinyl fallin under the term Disc, hence Disc Jockey...i love to see DJ's being technical, look at Luke Slater, the guy is ALWAYS Doing something...i think Ableton just allows you more free time to Jesus Pose...

Where's the guy with the "Jesus Pose Gives ya Magical Powers" Sig when ya need him...

Posted by idoru on Aug-21-2006 06:59:

Ableton vs. Turntables thread #113598743269723

Posted by Clovis on Aug-21-2006 07:48:

Repost imo

Posted by Abhay on Aug-21-2006 07:51:

Re: Why Is Everyone NOT Using Ableton!?!!!

quote:
Originally posted by Raveaddict19
I've just been fully introduced to it and oh my fucking god...its truly amazing!!!

I'm done

DJing is reduntant.

Posted by Nemesis44 on Aug-21-2006 09:08:

I believe that Ableton is souless. There is no heart.

I truly believe that when you touch your records your inner energy or Chi gets passed into the grooves and then gets spread around the room and the more Chi you acheive through meditation, the more effect you will have as a DJ.

Cheers
Nem

PS!
I am joking about the Chi, but Ableton does sound lifeless, just can't put my finger on it.

Posted by Clovis on Aug-21-2006 09:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Nemesis44

PS!
I am joking about the Chi, but Ableton does sound lifeless, just can't put my finger on it.

Interface imo.

Posted by razzi on Aug-21-2006 15:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Nemesis44
I am joking about the Chi, but Ableton does sound lifeless, just can't put my finger on it.

+1. can make some sweet sounds, but try doing that live mashup the real way

razzi

Posted by Mr.Mystery on Aug-21-2006 16:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis86
Interface imo.

Indeed, the interface looks like it was designed by a plastic toy company.

Posted by mikefasssy on Aug-21-2006 16:16:

because it looks like you are checking your email.

Posted by [friTTe] on Aug-21-2006 16:31:

I have it...but i guess im to stupid to understand how to use it properly
I´ve heard mixes done in it..sounds pretty nice..
I have to sit down and really play around someday when i have enough time..
For me its a good choice..dont have enough cash to buy real cdjs..

Posted by idoru on Aug-21-2006 16:39:

quote:
Originally posted by mikefasssy
because it looks like you are checking your email.

You turn the knobs of your MIDI controller to check your e-mail?

Posted by Freak on Aug-21-2006 16:54:

Because its fucking boring

Posted by Floorfiller on Aug-21-2006 17:04:

because not everyone is creative enough to make it worth using...

Posted by nchs09 on Aug-21-2006 18:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
because not everyone is creative enough to make it worth using...
so what you are saying is that if i mixed just normally with it....

id be a waste of everyones time?

Posted by mikefasssy on Aug-21-2006 18:31:

quote:
Originally posted by idoru
You turn the knobs of your MIDI controller to check your e-mail?

part of going to see a 'dj' at a club or any type of venue is the stigma of them being able to kind of interact with the crowd, having a sort of stage presence. 2 out of 10 people at a gig may understand what you are doing with those knobs, but the rest think it looks strange, they expected to see turntables, and a box in the middle with lots of cool lights etc.

in my experience, seeing a 'dj' play a gig with ableton is boring. somebody hunched over a screen, their midi controller on top of one of the 1200's, glancing up at the crowd every now and then. oh and did i mention them frantically trying to find enough space to use their mouse?

now, dj's (cough digweed cough) can have a pretty shitty stage presence as well, but i have yet to see somebody using ableton that trys to go beyond playing good music and really get into it with the people who are there not necassarily because of the music (some of you may not agree with this, but lots of people just like to get fucked up and move around to whatever is coming out of the speakers at very high volumes).

ableton is capable of doing phenominal things with music, but its live perfomance factor (ironic isn't it) isn't so great.

Posted by DJ_Progrezz on Aug-21-2006 20:00:

ableton gets boring after a while

Posted by harriz on Aug-21-2006 20:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Nemesis44

Cheers
Nem

Cheers
Nem

Posted by Zild on Aug-21-2006 20:29:

quote:
Originally posted by idoru
You turn the knobs of your MIDI controller to check your e-mail?

Or you could be like me and stick your midi controller in the closet and use the mouse/keyboard. I find it easier.

Posted by Brandon H. on Aug-21-2006 20:57:

OK, so I guess in saying "Why does'nt everyone use Ableton?!" I was being a bit harsh. I just find the program actually incredibly musical. Basically it expands just DJ'ing into a lot of live remixing and re-editing on the fly (not to sound like a freaking commercial for it...but), and I feel if you really learn the program (read the manual\tutorials) you would see what I mean.
I come from LOVING vinyl and CDJ's to honest and I still use them. But I dont see how it could hurt learning to use what a ton of DJ's I really look up to use ie. Richie Hawtin, Matthew Dear, Sasha and even bands.
I play six instruments, all different. Viola, guitar, keys, percussion and a few other oddities, and if a program can allow me to combine my knowledge of that with performing and remixing live the dance music I love, I find it pretty fresh and exciting.
My 2 cents

Did'nt meen to start a flame war or a "post #262624624672"

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