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Cyrus King
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Bush the shady president

How could Bush have seen the first plane hit the tower on TV before he went into the classroom when that footage wasnt even broadcasted until after the buildings collapsed and the two french brothers finished filming (which by the way is the only known footage so far of the first plane going in)

And if he is refering to the second plane going in... that is also impossible, becuase he was ALREADY in the classroom when it happened.

hmmmm

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MisterOpus, it looks like someone else needs a shiny new foil hat.


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BadBadNeil
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quote:
"The president ducked into an empty classroom and called his national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice, and asked her to keep him informed." -ABC (9/14/01)

"When he arrived at the school he had been whisked into a holding room: National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice needed to speak to him. But he soon appeared in the classroom and listened appreciatively as the children went through their reading drill." -Time.com (9/12/01)

"About six blocks from the school, a news photographer overheard a radio transmission. Press Secretary Ari Fleischer would be needed on arrival to discuss reports of some sort of crash. The radio also said that Mr. Bush had a call waiting for him at his holding room in the school from national security adviser Condoleezza Rice. Mr. Fleischer told the press what Ms. Rice told the president - a plane had just hit the World Trade Center. Nobody knew how serious the situation was." -CS Monitor (9/17/01)

"The president entered a holding room at the school and picked up a secure telephone to speak with National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice at the White House. She was sitting in her office, watching live coverage of the stricken north tower as it belched black smoke into a cloudless sky.
'There's one terrible pilot,' Mr. Bush muttered.
Turning to Mr. Card, he speculated that the pilot must have suffered a heart attack. Mr. Bush, who had yet to see the TV images, drafted a statement pledging federal assistance." -Washington Times (10/07/02)

"Just after 9 a.m., Bush entered Daniels' second-grade classroom. She began a lesson as the Secret Service agents lying in the trusses above her room listened along with the president and the children." -Sarasota Herald-Tribune (9/10/02)

9:03 am - The second plane crashes into the South WTC.

"'A second plane hit the second tower. America is under attack.'
White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card leaned over and whispered these words into President Bush's right ear at 9:07 a.m. September 11." -Washington Times (10/08/02)





My guess is that before he entered the classroom he saw the WTC on fire as seen in the pic. If he had his own video feed you can be assured we would have seen it by now, especially with all the other info that has leaked from his cabinet already.


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Q5echo
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stop reaching cyrus, it's above you

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Cyrus King
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My guess is that before he entered the classroom he saw the WTC on fire as seen in the pic. If he had his own video feed you can be assured we would have seen it by now, especially with all the other info that has leaked from his cabinet already.


He said he saw the first plane go in.. that is impiossible. I would beleive him if he said that he saw the building burn... but this was not the case.

He espescially mentions that he thought that was a bad pilot.


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BadBadNeil
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Yeah he couldn't have seen the first plane go in, I'm just guessing that he mean't that he saw the first building burning or whatnot.

His reference to the "bad pilot" is when he saw the first building burning before he went in the classroom he said "that must be a bad pilot" because he thought it was an accident. No one flies planes into buildings on purpose, or so he thought. Then a few minutes later, 3 minutes after entering the classroom the second plane hit.


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Cyrus King
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Originally posted by BadBadNeil
Yeah he couldn't have seen the first plane go in, I'm just guessing that he mean't that he saw the first building burning or whatnot.

His reference to the "bad pilot" is when he saw the first building burning before he went in the classroom he said "that must be a bad pilot" because he thought it was an accident. No one flies planes into buildings on purpose, or so he thought. Then a few minutes later, 3 minutes after entering the classroom the second plane hit.


I know that... but he said he specifically saw the plane go in and THEN he made that comment after "watching" it go in.

why did he lie?


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Q5echo
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he was "sitting outside the class room" meaning the holding room, which is clearly illustrated in BadBadNeil's picture.

thanks to BadBadNeil the transcripts, the timeline, even a photograph is right there. just put it together. it's not that hard.

he wasn't an eyewitness but he knew that an airplane hit it and that came out in his statement

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BadBadNeil
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Beats me.

He is either lying about it or he didn't see the actual plane hit but the building on fire and is referring to that and getting it confused with seeing the second plane hit.

I don't know what he would gain by letting the attack happen? The attack paralyzed new york, led to a recession, helped the economy drop and millions lose jobs, and open his cabinet, the FBI, and CIA to all types of scrutiny about the event. Even if he knew ahead of time, if the radio controllers aren't controlled by him, they made a bunch of mistakes by themselves. They could have stopped the attacks if in a perfect world they knew what was going on faster.


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quote:
Originally posted by Cyrus King
I know that... but he said he specifically saw the plane go in and THEN he made that comment after "watching" it go in.

why did he lie?


he probably didnt lie, he was just confused as usual, and a bad speaker

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quote:
Originally posted by Cyrus King
why did he lie?


because he is the one who ordered Al-Qaida's sevices (so he can get a good excuse to attack Iraq later ofcourse), so he felt a little guilty and got confused.... DOH!!


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Cyrus King
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quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
he was "sitting outside the class room" meaning the holding room, which is clearly illustrated in BadBadNeil's picture.

thanks to BadBadNeil the transcripts, the timeline, even a photograph is right there. just put it together. it's not that hard.

he wasn't an eyewitness but he knew that an airplane hit it and that came out in his statement


Listen to him speak, "its not that hard" to hear him say he "saw" the plane go in. I dont understand what is so confusing? He said he saw it, then mumbled about it being on TV.

That is impossible... the most he could have seen before he went into the classroom was the first building burn becuase there was no known footage broadcasted of the first plane going in.... he then went into the classroom.. read that stupid book.. the second plane plunged in... and his security advisor whispered in his ear.

He lied.... why... i dont know, but its as if he was expecting it.


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